Coronavirus (Los Angeles, San Francisco, Newark: home, versus, airport)

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by njbiodude

100% of people that catch Covid die--eventually.

Considering it's mostly self-reported symptoms should we include hypochondriacs under extreme stress that gained 50 lbs and haven't exercised in 2.5 years as sufferers of long-covid?

"The health challenges that a bout of COVID-19 sometimes leaves in its wake can be troublesome, scary and quite mysterious. New research confirms they can be deadly as well.

A study released Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that between January 2020 and June 2022, long COVID was implicated in at least 3,544 deaths in the United States alone.

The authors of the study acknowledge that their tally of long COVID fatalities is likely a significant undercount of people whose deaths were caused, at least in part, by COVID-19’s lingering effects. It represents a mere sliver — less than 0.4% — of the more than 1 million pandemic deaths that occurred during the study period in the United States.

But the new research contributes to mounting evidence that COVID-19’s toll doesn’t always end with a negative test. And it suggests that for many patients, new symptoms of poor health — from anxiety and sleep difficulties to heart arrhythmias and blood clots — may have unrecognized roots in a previous coronavirus infection.

Sometimes, those symptoms stem from infections patients didn’t even know they had."

https://www.latimes.com/science/stor...dc-report-says

[SFBayBoomer]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Some on this thread actually wanted China style lockdowns....

I'd like to see proof of your statement. Please link to the posts where City-Data members said they wanted that.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by SFBayBoomer

I'd like to see proof of your statement. Please link to the posts where City-Data members said they wanted that.

Please see LA corona thread. You are not a new member, that should be easy.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by SFBayBoomer

I'd like to see proof of your statement. Please link to the posts where City-Data members said they wanted that.

Plenty more from this poster like this...

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

We could succeed if we did a full lockdown for 6 weeks and then a 2 week quarantine for all travelers entering this country. That would strike the best balance for our economy and could sustain us until the vaccine helped us reach herd immunity. Other countries have done it, but I don't think we have the political willpower nor the sense of collectivism in our community to do this.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by sav858

Plenty more from this poster like this...

He posted that in November, 2020, when COVID-19 was raging and there were no vaccinations available.

"Science collects data, and you act on the data that you have at the time.

In January 2020, we were learning about aspects of the coronavirus, and we had to, by necessity, make recommendations, make guidelines. We had to publicly discuss our understandings of the virus.

But the outbreak was dynamic, and science is self-correcting. So what we knew in January (2020) was one thing. When we later learned that the virus is readily spread by aerosol, and that 50% to 60% of the spread was by people who didn’t even know they’re infected, we had to change our recommendations and guidelines.

People sometimes said, “You’re flip-flopping.” It has nothing to do with flip-flopping! It was a case of continuing to make decisions based on the latest and most accurate data you have. After all, the SARS-CoV-2 that we were dealing with in January 2020 was very different from the SARS-CoV-2 virus that we’re dealing with now.

If you stick with the science, you’re going to have to be prepared to change as the facts evolve."

https://www.latimes.com/science/stor...angerous-thing

[sav858]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

He posted that in November, 2020, when COVID-19 was raging and there were no vaccinations available.

Ok? We still knew plenty about COVID then like how it didn't spread well outside yet they supported the closure of outdoor dining, aka a "lockdown". We also knew schools were not main spreaders of COVID at that time yet they supported keeping them closed. Maybe if it was April or June 2020 you might have had a point. Yeah the facts did "evolve" but people like that were much slower too accept those evolutions.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by sav858

Ok? We still knew plenty about COVID then like how it didn't spread well outside yet they supported the closure of outdoor dining, aka a "lockdown". We also knew schools were not main spreaders of COVID at that time yet they supported keeping them closed. Maybe if it was April or June 2020 you might have had a point. Yeah the facts did "evolve" but people like that were much slower too accept those evolutions.

There's a preliminary study from France that schools are one of the main spreaders of COVID-19. I could track it down, but things aren't the same as here. Of course some of us have been insisting for 2 years that their major role eventually would be demonstrated. Meanwhile, lol at those who thought kids can't get the virus (or fist-shaking at people who weren't dumb but actively lied about that).

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by sav858

Ok? We still knew plenty about COVID then like how it didn't spread well outside yet they supported the closure of outdoor dining, aka a "lockdown". We also knew schools were not main spreaders of COVID at that time yet they supported keeping them closed. Maybe if it was April or June 2020 you might have had a point. Yeah the facts did "evolve" but people like that were much slower too accept those evolutions.

https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-...s-latest-stage
Look at these "experts" talking out of both sides of their mouth. Saying masks offer "protection" then say :

“I tell people: You’re not a failure even with your best efforts because at some point, you’re likely to get this virus,” Dr. Bryan said. “Some people are afraid when they test positive because they have been trying so hard, but it’s hard not to get BA.5—it’s so contagious.”

Well sheesh, either they work or they don't. It's pretty binary; did you get sick or not?

This is the best summary of people's lingering mental state today that are still screeching about mask mandates and lockdowns.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/annal...-masks-forever

The organization has nearly twenty thousand followers on Instagram- Here is their group think.

And then there are masks. The People’s C.D.C. strongly supports mask mandates, and they have called on federal, state, and local governments to put them back in place, arguing that “the vaccine-only strategy promoted by the CDC is insufficient.” The group has noted that resistance to masks is most common among white people: Lucky Tran, who organizes the coalition’s media team, recently tweeted a YouGov survey supporting this, and wrote that “a lot of anti-mask sentiment is deeply embedded in white supremacy.”

How can anyone take any of this and these types seriously?

[sav858]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-...s-latest-stage
Look at these "experts" talking out of both sides of their mouth. Saying masks offer "protection" then say :

“I tell people: You’re not a failure even with your best efforts because at some point, you’re likely to get this virus,” Dr. Bryan said. “Some people are afraid when they test positive because they have been trying so hard, but it’s hard not to get BA.5—it’s so contagious.”

Well sheesh, either they work or they don't. It's pretty binary; did you get sick or not?

This is the best summary of people's lingering mental state today that are still screeching about mask mandates and lockdowns.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/annal...-masks-forever

The organization has nearly twenty thousand followers on Instagram- Here is their group think.

And then there are masks. The People’s C.D.C. strongly supports mask mandates, and they have called on federal, state, and local governments to put them back in place, arguing that “the vaccine-only strategy promoted by the CDC is insufficient.” The group has noted that resistance to masks is most common among white people: Lucky Tran, who organizes the coalition’s media team, recently tweeted a YouGov survey supporting this, and wrote that “a lot of anti-mask sentiment is deeply embedded in white supremacy.”

How can anyone take any of this and these types seriously?

After calling for mask mandates this is what they also say:

The People’s C.D.C. members weren’t willing to talk about what it would take to achieve zero covid cases in the U.S. “It’s not our job to dictate policy,” Thill said. “We’re filling gaps. We’re trying to change the narrative. And we’re trying to lean into love and equity.”

The amount of self awareness these progressive activists lack is truly astonishing.

[stablegenius]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-...s-latest-stage
Look at these "experts" talking out of both sides of their mouth. Saying masks offer "protection" then say :

“I tell people: You’re not a failure even with your best efforts because at some point, you’re likely to get this virus,” Dr. Bryan said. “Some people are afraid when they test positive because they have been trying so hard, but it’s hard not to get BA.5—it’s so contagious.”

Well sheesh, either they work or they don't. It's pretty binary; did you get sick or not?

This is the best summary of people's lingering mental state today that are still screeching about mask mandates and lockdowns.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/annal...-masks-forever

The organization has nearly twenty thousand followers on Instagram- Here is their group think.

And then there are masks. The People’s C.D.C. strongly supports mask mandates, and they have called on federal, state, and local governments to put them back in place, arguing that “the vaccine-only strategy promoted by the CDC is insufficient.” The group has noted that resistance to masks is most common among white people: Lucky Tran, who organizes the coalition’s media team, recently tweeted a YouGov survey supporting this, and wrote that “a lot of anti-mask sentiment is deeply embedded in white supremacy.”

How can anyone take any of this and these types seriously?

Wow. What a bunch of nuts.