California COVID rates by home overcrowding (deal, areas, pictures)

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by stone26

I would bet that these people are still working, getting sick at work, and bringing it home.

Every fast food place is demanding people show for work regardless, so ya, it's happening.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by wac_432

Texas and Florida are starting to jump. It's just a matter of how many boomers each state is willing to throw into the fire to keep their economy rolling.

Isn’t death a normal consequence of a epidemic or pandemic? We’re lucky this virus is so survivable and Trump gut us the vaccine. Imagine if it was Ebola? Are you counting the suicides as part of the fire ?

[Taiko]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Every fast food place is demanding people show for work regardless, so ya, it's happening.

Most "essential workers" are not doctors, they are at the other economic end and members of the working poor. Thus they are more likely to live with roommates and families extended beyond the nuclear core with the white picket fence of the mini compound.

Before the pandemic those with sick leave as a benefit were almost forced to work with less severe cold and flu symptoms as employers had outside attendance managers looking at folks who "abused" sick leave as the employee had to justify using the "benefit". Then early in the "lockdowns" most set policies as made by federal law to liberalize that effort to crackdown on the usage of sick leave.

Since the virus was said to be spread by the asymptomatic, who barring waiting in a testing line in their few hours off have no proof of illness since the pre virus surge normal medical aid is not available to prove. And now months in due to staffing shortages since "flatten the curve" just deferred the curve, the attendance managers have been reverting to old ways of trying to get justification on sick leave to make up for short staffs.

Those without benefits probably face the same show up or don't come back pressure with few labor protections. Along with no income besides the government cheese, if EDD comes back on line.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Finper

Yea Az is surging right now too and. We’re. Still. Open

AZ confirmed case rate per 100 K: 8,272.7; last 14 days: 1,459.8. Death rate per 100 K: 71.7
CA confirmed case rate per 100 K: 6,474.5; last 14 days: 1,342.7. Death rate per 100 K: 135.9.

And in the last 14 days, CA death rate per 100 K is: 11.3; AZ: a whopping 18.2.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

AZ confirmed case rate per 100 K: 8,272.7; last 14 days: 1,459.8. Death rate per 100 K: 71.7
CA confirmed case rate per 100 K: 6,474.5; last 14 days: 1,342.7. Death rate per 100 K: 135.9.

And in the last 14 days, CA death rate per 100 K is: 11.3; AZ: a whopping 18.2.

I wonder how much synergy there is between neighboring state's case numbers. State borders are abstract in a pandemic and not everybody remains situated in their homes. It's not like there isn't interstate trucking going on across the nation 24/7 - 365/yr and we know from the modeling that just one positive case can expose a lot of people and start a chain reaction. I'm not attempting to dismiss the numbers. They are what they are. I just don't believe they're all a matter of one policy vs. another being better or worse. We've seen that proven globally.

[Racer46]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

AZ confirmed case rate per 100 K: 8,272.7; last 14 days: 1,459.8. Death rate per 100 K: 71.7
CA confirmed case rate per 100 K: 6,474.5; last 14 days: 1,342.7. Death rate per 100 K: 135.9.

And in the last 14 days, CA death rate per 100 K is: 11.3; AZ: a whopping 18.2.

Uh, the info above says CA is 135.9 per 100K?


AZ is 71.7 per 100K

[stone26]

Originally Posted by Finper

Isn’t death a normal consequence of a epidemic or pandemic? We’re lucky this virus is so survivable and Trump gut us the vaccine. Imagine if it was Ebola? Are you counting the suicides as part of the fire ?

We would have been completely better off if it was Ebola. Actually, we were completely better off WHEN it was Ebola. According to the CDC, about 11,000 people died in all the majorly affected countries.. COMBINED. The US had a grand total of one death due to Ebola.

https://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/histor...eak/index.html

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by stone26

I would bet that these people are still working, getting sick at work, and bringing it home.

The leaf blowers and lawn mowers never stopped from day 1. There is still a group of day laborers out in front every Home Depot and has been since day 1 too.

[Taiko]

Originally Posted by stone26

We would have been completely better off if it was Ebola. Actually, we were completely better off WHEN it was Ebola. According to the CDC, about 11,000 people died in all the majorly affected countries.. COMBINED. The US had a grand total of one death due to Ebola.

https://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/histor...eak/index.html

Right,the big difference being the visible symptoms are so severe that people naturally avoid the Ebola victims. Whereas COVID in a way is like a venereal disease and people being a social species which likes to congregate, often unknowingly with an infectious carrier.

It just so happens that we have another case at work. This time the unit broke and we went from half staffing to a quarter as many took off, paying $100, to get in line for rapid test. Tomorrow will tell us if it was home or the workplace that got her.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by stone26

We would have been completely better off if it was Ebola. Actually, we were completely better off WHEN it was Ebola. According to the CDC, about 11,000 people died in all the majorly affected countries.. COMBINED. The US had a grand total of one death due to Ebola.

https://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/histor...eak/index.html

Your talking about how contagious it is. I was talking about what happens when you get it. Your organs liquify and you start bleeding out of every orafice including your eyes. It’s a horrible death that can strike any age group. Can you imagine our hospitals having to deal with that??