“If you want to leave, fine. But don’t insult California on the way out” (Sacramento: home, layoffs)

[blameyourself]

Originally Posted by stablegenius

Fair enough, but where is your source that it's so bad for you?

That was posted early on on page 2.

Admittedly, this is so ridiculous it shouldn't even need a source. Anyone that thinks it's a good idea to hang out in that kind of heat for any extended amount of time is not the sharpest tool in this shed. Everything doesn't need to be an argument especially something as basic as this.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Losfrisco

I'm curious to know where you could live in CA and "never see mountains."

PB/MB/Bay Park, E side of Soledad, anywhere near Scripps Pier, anywhere along Genessee. That's just here in SD. The mesa blocks out the mts that are 45-60 miles away. The tallest one is just over 6000 ft.

[Losfrisco]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

PB/MB/Bay Park, E side of Soledad, anywhere near Scripps Pier, anywhere along Genessee. That's just here in SD. The mesa blocks out the mts that are 45-60 miles away. The tallest one is just over 6000 ft.

Oh, I thought you meant like never see mountains in CA ever. I"ve been poor in some of the worst places to live in CA and mountain views were still a regular part of life.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by dontbelievehim

Just hills?

6,533 feet
Hot Springs Mountain is a peak located in the Peninsular Ranges in California. The mountain rises to an elevation of 6,533 feet (1,991 m) and is the highest point in San Diego County



Mount Mitchell, the highest peak in the Eastern U.S. Towering above the surrounding forest at an impressive 6,684 feet above sea level, Mount Mitchell is the tallest peak east of the Mississippi River

That's 80 miles from San Diego and takes you 2 hours to get there. SD County is HUGE 4260 square miles. San Diego city limit, not so much.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Losfrisco

Oh, I thought you meant like never see mountains in CA ever. I"ve been poor in some of the worst places to live in CA and mountain views were still a regular part of life.

The only time we really notice the mts is when they get snow, then they stand out. But, you have to be up top to see them. Probably the best is on the 52 E.

[Losfrisco]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

The only time we really notice the mts is when they get snow, then they stand out. But, you have to be up top to see them. Probably the best is on the 52 E.

I'm assuming you're talking about El Cajon mountain.

San Diego mountains are speedbumps compared to the rest of CA, but would be a huge deal in almost every other part of the U.S.

[mattja]

Originally Posted by blisterpeanuts

My understanding is that the proposition system in California has ruined the state, with too many populist ideas getting codified into state law without the necessary legislative process of analysis and compromise.

That's something a statist would say, certainly. And don't forget Proposition 13 was one of the greatest tax revolts in the country and has allowed retirees to stay in their homes. Our proposition system works.

I loved Calif. when I visited back in the '80s and early 90s, and at one time I dreamed of moving there. So glad I didn't. Now I dream of getting out of Massachusetts, which is a mini-California in many ways.

But don't worry. When I go, I won't bad mouth my former home. I'll just leave, and never look back.

That's the way to do it.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Losfrisco

I'm assuming you're talking about El Cajon mountain.

San Diego mountains are speedbumps compared to the rest of CA, but would be a huge deal in almost every other part of the U.S.

That's el cap, Cuyamaca is 6500. El Cap rarely gets snow. I'm from Denver so these are dinky lil things.

[mattja]

Originally Posted by Losfrisco

I'm curious to know where you could live in CA and "never see mountains."

It depends on your definition of "mountain."

In the Bay Area,

Mt. Diablo (Contra Costa) is 3,849'.
Mt. Tamalpais (North Bay) is 2,579′.
Mt. Hamilton (South Bay) is 4,265′.

Mt. Diablo is probably the most visible because it's so close to the Central Valley area east of the Bay Area. It's visible for miles from the east. But is it a mountain?

I lived at the base of Mount San Antonio (Mt. Baldy) in SoCal for a year. 10,000'. That's a mountain.

Plenty of people in California never see a mountain or the ocean.

[stablegenius]

Originally Posted by dontbelievehim

Just hills?

6,533 feet
Hot Springs Mountain is a peak located in the Peninsular Ranges in California. The mountain rises to an elevation of 6,533 feet (1,991 m) and is the highest point in San Diego County



Mount Mitchell, the highest peak in the Eastern U.S. Towering above the surrounding forest at an impressive 6,684 feet above sea level, Mount Mitchell is the tallest peak east of the Mississippi River

I guess that's a mountain, but it's not really mountains. Also. It's not in San Diego at all, and it's conceivable that someone who lived here may not have seen it.