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Old 05-13-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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I must agree with "jdavid93225"

Though I'm a native Californian, I will be retiring out of California by the end of 2015, for all of the reasons he listed.

I've narrowed my retirement destinations down to the Boise ID area, or the Austin TX area. Both areas have their advantages, and I'll probably save about $2,000 a month in living costs, when you total in the high cost of Power in Bakersfield CA, very high income and sales taxes, fuel, insurance, auto expenses, including auto fuel, lisc. Ins. etc.. I had always thought to move back to Orange County or perhaps move to San Diego County to retire. However I no longer have ANY faith in our State Government, or the people who keep re-electing them.

I have vacationed in both of my target areas, twice each, in the past four years, and am now sure of my future choice of places to retire.
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Sierraville
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Once again this bit of non reality pops up:
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very high income and sales taxes,
Tax Freedom Day in Ca, April 24, in Idaho April 9, in Texas April 10.

Expressed as a fraction the difference between CA and Idaho taxes 24 - 9 = 15/364
Expressed as a fraction the difference between CA and Texas taxes 24- 10 = 14/364

You may notice that the difference between CA and Idaho and Texas taxes isn't very much at all. Go ahead, reduce the fractions, or convert them to percentages.

Then re evaluate your rationale for moving.

Last edited by Sierravillian; 05-13-2013 at 06:33 PM..
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:41 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Originally Posted by Sierravillian View Post
Once again this bit of non reality pops up:

Tax Freedom Day in Ca, April 24, in Idaho April 9, in Texas April 10.

Expressed as a fraction the difference between CA and Idaho taxes 24 - 9 = 15/364
Expressed as a fraction the difference between CA and Texas taxes 24- 10 = 14/364

You may notice that the difference between CA and Idaho and Texas taxes isn't very much at all. Go ahead, reduce the fractions, or convert them to percentages.

Then re evaluate your rational for moving.
Once again someone missed the fact that he was talking overall living costs, not just taxes.

Psst! One doesn't need a rationale for moving somewhere. They can just up and do it and don't have any obligation to justify it to anyone except a spouse. Land of the free and all that!
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Old 05-13-2013, 06:17 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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I must agree with "jdavid93225"

Though I'm a native Californian, I will be retiring out of California by the end of 2015, for all of the reasons he listed.

I've narrowed my retirement destinations down to the Boise ID area, or the Austin TX area. Both areas have their advantages, and I'll probably save about $2,000 a month in living costs, when you total in the high cost of Power in Bakersfield CA, very high income and sales taxes, fuel, insurance, auto expenses, including auto fuel, lisc. Ins. etc.. I had always thought to move back to Orange County or perhaps move to San Diego County to retire. However I no longer have ANY faith in our State Government, or the people who keep re-electing them.

I have vacationed in both of my target areas, twice each, in the past four years, and am now sure of my future choice of places to retire.
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Once again someone missed the fact that he was talking overall living costs, not just taxes.
Oh okay. Just for the heck of it let's check his list -
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high cost of power in Bakersfield
- now who would retire in Bakersfield anyway? Why be limited to that?
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very high income and sales taxes
- income taxes? covered, not high unless you are in a top bracket. And if you are in a top bracket, what do you care anyway? You can retire any damn place you feel like. Sales taxes? Not much different than some other states and none on food. And low property taxes to compensate.
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fuel,
- my favorite gripe to poke a hole in: for the average driver the difference is about $25 a month from cheap fuel states. Go ahead and move away for that. You'll never even recover the cost of moving in ten lifetimes. Well, two or three anyway.
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insurance,
- what? compared where to where?
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auto expenses,
- what? what expenses? repairs? same as anyplace. oil? same as anyplace. tires? same as anyplace. anti-freeze? right.
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including auto fuel, lisc. Ins.
- hey no fair repeating yourself.

Silly.
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Old 05-13-2013, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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tires? same as anyplace.
The snow tires are cheaper in Bakersfield...
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Sierraville
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Once again someone missed the fact that he was talking overall living costs, not just taxes.

Psst! One doesn't need a rationale for moving somewhere. They can just up and do it and don't have any obligation to justify it to anyone except a spouse. Land of the free and all that!
Gee Curmudgeo, I would have thought that you would have noticed my specific quote.

I think for the most part, those who think they must move out of state to afford to retire, screwed up their career choice, years ago.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Originally Posted by Ralph78 View Post
I've narrowed my retirement destinations down to the Boise ID area, or the Austin TX area. Both areas have their advantages, and I'll probably save about $2,000 a month in living costs, when you total in the high cost of Power in Bakersfield CA, very high income and sales taxes, fuel, insurance, auto expenses, including auto fuel, lisc. Ins. etc.. I had always thought to move back to Orange County or perhaps move to San Diego County to retire. However I no longer have ANY faith in our State Government, or the people who keep re-electing them.
That's fairly understandable, until you consider those of ID or TX


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Old 05-13-2013, 07:07 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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The snow tires are cheaper in Bakersfield...
But I heard they were a tourist attraction in the OC; bein' kinda rare an' all.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:10 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Gee Curmudgeo, I would have thought that you would have noticed my specific quote.

I think for the most part, those who think they must move out of state to afford to retire, screwed up their career choice, years ago.
Gee, sierravanilla, I think you're probably wrong. Some might not need to but simply want to. But don't let that disturb your elitist view of things. It may be all you have.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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Tennessee doesn't have state tax.
Neither does Texas.

And as far as the high property taxes in TX you can control that by how much house you want to purchase. No matter how you want to slice and dice it if you add up all the taxes that you pay in CA that you don't pay in TX you come out ahead in TX. Additionally what you pay for a decent house here you would never have to pay such a price in TX for an equivalent house.

On that note I would warn anyone who would consider living in San Antonio....don't even think about it!
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