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Old 07-14-2017, 04:12 AM
 
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People who move countries want to feel reassured that their decision wasn't a mistake, so they sometimes exaggerate the pros of their new country and minimise the pros of their previous ones.

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Old 07-14-2017, 04:22 AM
 
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People who move to another Western country perhaps want to feel reassured that their decision wasn't a mistake, so they sometimes exaggerate the pros of their new country and understate the pros of their previous one.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 06:39 AM
 
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Oh, I'm sure there are. I cited two posters whom I know to be expat Canadians in the US, and who are happy in the US.

But I don't know everybody. If you know of any others, I'm sure we'd all like to hear about them.
Oh, rest assured Chevy, we will, we most definitely will.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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John, we've discussed this before. You haven't lost your Canadian citizenship. If you choose not to recognize or exercise it (or voluntarily renounce it), that's fine; but you're still a Canadian. Read each country's respective legislation in this area; under Canadian law, the United States cannot strip your Canadian citizenship from you, no matter what the US citizenship judge says. Only you can do that.

Anyway, I have the same argument in reverse with a local friend who is originally from the United States. She is convinced that she is no longer an American citizen, because "The Canadian citizenship judge who granted my Canadian citizenship said I wasn't American any more." Thing is--she remains an American, under American citizenship law. But under Canada's law, she's Canadian. Just like you, John, she's a dual; she just doesn't realize it (despite my legal arguments to the contrary).

Hey, look at the bright side. Canada isn't charging you income taxes, the way the US taxes its expat citizens.

That being said, it works both ways. It is true that JohnSoCal and NewDixieGirl, both regular posters here, and Canadians by birth and now in the US, will probably never return to Canada to live. But at the same time, I know a number of Americans in Canada who will never likely return to the US to live. Heck, my ex-wife (Colorado) is one; my above friend (Washington state) is another. There's another in Calgary (Connecticut), and a couple back in Toronto (Florida and New York).

I know that anecdotes are never data, but it seems to me that people end up in a place that works for them. If John and NewDixieGirl are happy in the US, good for them. If Rose (Washington), Debbie (Connecticut), and Mickey (New York), are happy in Canada, good for them too. Weather doesn't seem to play much of a role; it's what works best for each individual.
At the time that I became a US citizen, Canada did not recognize dual citizenship. I realize that is no longer the case. It is really not of any concern to me
 
Old 07-14-2017, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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Absolutely!!

It is weird to me that many people underestimate the allure of a better weather for Canadians moving to the US....even young ones.
It wasn't just weather for me. I would much rather live in Seattle than Vancouver and I am not a big fan of Seattle.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 01:35 PM
 
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I would much rather live in Seattle than Vancouver and I am not a big fan of Seattle.

I totally agree.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 07:59 PM
 
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I've been here for 2 years and I'm always surprised at how many people I meet from the U.S. that moved here. It's very common. You can't compare the raw numbers/statistics, look at the population difference.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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I've been here for 2 years and I'm always surprised at how many people I meet from the U.S. that moved here. It's very common. You can't compare the raw numbers/statistics, look at the population difference.
The difference in population should mean that ten times as many Americans would move to Canada. Of course we know that is not true.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 11:26 PM
 
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I've been here for 2 years and I'm always surprised at how many people I meet from the U.S. that moved here. It's very common. You can't compare the raw numbers/statistics, look at the population difference.

...I forgot to mention the Americans I met that moved to Canada for work or family reason and eventually were planning to go back or went back....anecdotal I know but....
 
Old 07-15-2017, 01:26 AM
 
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...I forgot to mention the Americans I met that moved to Canada for work or family reason and eventually were planning to go back or went back....anecdotal I know but....
Come on, saturno. You know that's a ridiculous example, because, well, ditto. Canadians also move to the U.S. for work or family reasons. Those reasons cover pretty much everything. And many of those also plan to move back at some point. Some do and some don't because life, as they say, is what happens when you're making other plans.
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