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High population growth just widdens the gap on road funding. Currently the gas tax and vehicle registration fees are covering less than 50% of interstate construction and maintenance costs, leaving the general fund (an unstable revenue stream) as the source for the other 50%. As cars get better gas mileage and fill up less frequently, it makes the dwindling gas tax revenue problem even worse for road construction. Then you have old highways that need to be brought up to standards and a rural population that makes up a smaller portion of the state's population but the majority of land.
I see. Still it seems a fast growing economy could manage it. There's probably many other projects going on.
All of those roads give you plenty of warning. So what you never opened your mail?
Driving on the shoulder is not safe.
What does OK have to do with NC?
There's not enough warning when u enter a highway just before the traffic jams up. If you try to google local traffic u have to dig to see the dates and exits involved, which also isn't correct. 8pm-6am? More like 7-5am.
It's not unsafe either. I done 8 miles before. Just say u thought an exit was coming up. U know what's not safe? When the left 3 lanes are flying by the right lane for 5 miles while proactive drivers wait for the actual construction to come up.
OK is between NC and California, i40 goes through there. It's the exception for paying tolls to cali, unless u take I-10. Tolls aren't necessary.
I see. Still it seems a fast growing economy could manage it. There's probably many other projects going on.
LOL, yeah,ya think? That kinda proves the other posters point...a fast growing state, with lots of major projects needed equals not every project getting done when needed. I'm not a fan of the current General Assembly overall, but I wil say they have done well by stopping the diversion of gas tax money that took place under prior regimes, and getting several major highway projects done in this state.
The tolls will guarantee those who pay will move at 45mph+ and those who don't pay will likely still have rush hour traffic to sit in. In theory, toll lanes provide "options". The toll lanes will also be utilized by expanded CATS express service between Uptown and North Meck, providing Uptown commuters a faster commute via public transit at peak hours at a reasonable cost than current express service that has to sit in traffic.
(Not that you would necessarily have the answer ) What if the toll lanes operate at speeds below 45mph? What if traffic is averaging 25mph...does that mean that the toll lanes become free?
LOL, yeah,ya think? That kinda proves the other posters point...a fast growing state, with lots of major projects needed equals not every project getting done when needed. I'm not a fan of the current General Assembly overall, but I wil say they have done well by stopping the diversion of gas tax money that took place under prior regimes, and getting several major highway projects done in this state.
Your original post was troll post.
Call it what you may, I hope NC'ers are smart enough to question 50 year toll contracts. Many cities have several pending projects, bridges 100 years old known to be hazardous and people pay extremely high taxes and tolls to drive on them.
(Not that you would necessarily have the answer ) What if the toll lanes operate at speeds below 45mph? What if traffic is averaging 25mph...does that mean that the toll lanes become free?
My experience driving the NJ turnpike for several years says, hell no it doesn't guarantee that. When people need to commute or travel, they travel. Or they move to another state. I hear Oregon is nice.
Call it what you may, I hope NC'ers are smart enough to question 50 year toll contracts. Many cities have several pending projects, bridges 100 years old known to be hazardous and people pay extremely high taxes and tolls to drive on them.
People have done much more than question it. As noted above, its the reason McCrory lost re-election. People were, and are, livid. Opponents even took it to court to try and stop it:
(Not that you would necessarily have the answer ) What if the toll lanes operate at speeds below 45mph? What if traffic is averaging 25mph...does that mean that the toll lanes become free?
Unless there is an accident or something blocking the express lane.. most likely no refund if it is just due to congestion. That's the policy in most express lanes nationwide.
The lane operator is supposed to control congestion via price. As the lanes get more volume, the prices increase throughout the day and they watch speed via sensors to know if pricing should be increased or decreased. People heading north at 5PM are going to typically pay a lot more than people heading north at 6:30PM for example, should they chose the express lane.
My experience driving the NJ turnpike for several years says, hell no it doesn't guarantee that. When people need to commute or travel, they travel. Or they move to another state. I hear Oregon is nice.
NJ isn't a fair comparison because their tolls have been around forever and all drivers are forced to pay the fixed amounts. A lot of the newer "Express Lanes" where some lanes are tolled and some are not have changing toll amounts.
Technically, to NDL's question, if I'm reading the documents correctly (https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/I-77E...ssLanesFAQ.pdf), if there is a lot of traffic in the toll lanes then the tolls will actually INCREASE, so that less people take them. It seems that the biggest determinant on pricing is the amount of traffic in the toll lanes, but I'm not sure if they will also take into account how that compares to the traffic in the free lanes. I know on some of the Express Lanes in other states if there is no traffic in the free lanes than the Express Lanes are only like 30 cents.
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) What if the toll lanes operate at speeds below 45mph? What if traffic is averaging 25mph...does that mean that the toll lanes become free?
