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"Jaynarie" I agree but, do you hink maybe if teachers in NC had a union than they would be able to fight for a raise and health benefits. If you look and see the states where teachers have half decent salaries you will find that it is because they have a union who united them and fought for higher pay and health benefits...
Correct me if I am wrong....teacher salaries in NC are not that strong....health care would cost more....right now I pay around 200 for my entire family and that will go down to 160 this year (where I am living now). NC would not pay me for my specialist degree (six year in adminstration) unless I get a position in administration. With 13 years and a M. Ed. I would struggle to make 50,000.
How is the climate for administrators....are there openings each year....are the openings usually promised to someone when they post the opening? Does NC struggle to find adminstrators and what would a salary as an Assistant Princ. look like (roughly)??
Actually, we have an over-abundance of teachers, not all who want jobs teaching can get them. Not sure where you heard we are having a teacher shortage, but you have us confused with another state.
Loves, I just saw on the news just the other day that CMS has 10 bus driver openings and 135 teaching position open and unfilled. The said they currently were interviewing 10 people for those jobs?? Personally, I have no qualms about paying a little higher tax for good teachers. Unfortunately, paying them more money will not make them better teachers. I am all about pay for performance, baby! If your students do well and progress or you are recognized as being a good teacher through awards or other type of recognition, then I do not mind raising that salary. Across the board raising of salaries to attract people that just want to make more money is not a good idea.
How is the climate for administrators....are there openings each year....are the openings usually promised to someone when they post the opening? Does NC struggle to find adminstrators and what would a salary as an Assistant Princ. look like (roughly)??
I have seen administrative positions open every year but most of the time I notice these positions are filled by someone already on staff.
As an assistant prinicpal you're looking at starting out at $3700 to $4000 a month (before taxes and benefits) + the county supplement which can be anywhere from $0 (yes, zero dollars) to $11,000 per year. All this info can be found here: Salary Guides
Unfortunately it would seem that way. And some teachers in NC make more than a starting out assistant prinicipal (due to the length of time they have been teaching).
North Carolina's priorities are not in order. Teachers are not making any money and your principals are doing even worst. I know in New York the starting pay for assistant principals are about 80k (and up) and principals are in the 100's. I know the arguments by some of the regulars here on this thread are gonna be about how the taxes in North Carolina's homes are lower, your car and home insuanrances are lower etc. But they are not that much lower, they are just a LITTLE BIT lower. A teacher moving from NY or NJ will have their salaries cut almost in half. The price of food and clothes are the same if not higher, the standard of living is the same. The math just does not add up. North Carolina must increase teachers and principals salary...
Loves, I just saw on the news just the other day that CMS has 10 bus driver openings and 135 teaching position open and unfilled. The said they currently were interviewing 10 people for those jobs?? Personally, I have no qualms about paying a little higher tax for good teachers. Unfortunately, paying them more money will not make them better teachers. I am all about pay for performance, baby! If your students do well and progress or you are recognized as being a good teacher through awards or other type of recognition, then I do not mind raising that salary. Across the board raising of salaries to attract people that just want to make more money is not a good idea.
If you want "pay for performance" for teachers then you "must" do it for all public servantsPerformance pay for police officers' also, performance pay for politicians, etc. Based on your logic, police officer in high crime areas should be paid less, because more crime should mean they are not doing their jobs, based on your logic. When you have kids who not performing at their highest level it doesn't mean teachers are not doing their jobs. There are so many factors involved in order for kids to learn. If you have high crime in an area it doesn't mean police officers are not doing their jobs. Its a lot more complicated than your logic. If students are not doing well it doesn't necessarily mean teachers re not doing their jobs. If teachers' salary is increased then you will ATTRACT good teachers...
If you want "pay for performance" for teachers then you "must" do it for all public servantsPerformance pay for police officers' also, performance pay for politicians, etc. Based on your logic, police officer in high crime areas should be paid less, because more crime should mean they are not doing their jobs, based on your logic. When you have kids who not performing at their highest level it doesn't mean teachers are not doing their jobs. There are so many factors involved in order for kids to learn. If you have high crime in an area it doesn't mean police officers are not doing their jobs. Its a lot more complicated than your logic. If students are not doing well it doesn't necessarily mean teachers re not doing their jobs. If teachers' salary is increased then you will ATTRACT good teachers...
I guess we will have to disagree. If you raise salaries you will attract people who like money, not necessarily ones that want or can be a good teacher to your student. I have been happy with our teachers so far in Cabarrus County and I know they don't make allot of money. Case in point. I just moved from Portland Oregon a year ago. The average teacher there made well over $50,000 a year, but they have terrible public schools. Can't blame it on the inner city disadvantaged students either, because Portland does not fit that MO. Its one of the whitest cities in the country with a per capita income that is really high, they just don't have good public schools. They spend allot of money on teachers and not enough on maintaining a good learning environment for the kids. The schools are old. The only places that seemed to get new buildings were the places that have the richest residents. The teachers are paid scale, but if you taught in a neighboorhood that did not have the higher per capita income, you taught in old run down facilities.
I have no problem with pay for performance for all public employees. Your little analogy about policeman, as skewed as it was, makes sense. They should be paid by the number of criminals they manage to convict. I have no problem paying teachers more that go to work in those underperforming schools since the playing field would be a little uneven there. These same teachers should not expect to leave these schools when they just give up and expect another school in the suberbs to pay them based on the increased salary they were making to teach at that school because of its difficulties.
You are happy with your teachers but are they happy with their salaries? probably not. Look, just because a teacher wants to get paid well does not mean he is only interested in making money. And I never mentioned anything about "inner city disadvantaged students". All I am saying is that if kids are not learning it is not necessarily the teachers fault, because it involves so much, it can't be just the teachers' fault. That is why teachers pay can't be based on performance. So in a way you have proven my point. In order for students to learn you need, parental involvement, clasroom and schools that are conducive to learning, good administration so on and so forth. So what we should be concentrating on as a society is to make sure that everything we need for students' learning are in place. Pay teachers well, make parents participate in their children's education, no to overcrowded classrooms, no to inadequate classrooms and schools, etc. All these things and some others have to exist in order to have a successful school system
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