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My sister is a nurse and she is paid very well and she gets full benefits for herself and her family. "LOVEMOUNTAINS" if you check those teachers you'll find that they have been working for more than 30 years. The original poster will be a new teacher starting at entry level pay, so those numbers are irrelevant.
My sister is a nurse and she is paid very well and she gets full benefits for herself and her family. "LOVEMOUNTAINS" if you check those teachers you'll find that they have been working for more than 30 years. The original poster will be a new teacher starting at entry level pay, so those numbers are irrelevant.
Not so sure they are irrelevant - why should a brand new teacher start out making such big bucks? How many kids coming out of college every year really make more then $50,000? Sure, some fields might, but not the majority. And people are free to choose other careers if the money is a deal breaker. Also, the OP does have experience, he's not a newbie. If the money here is not right for him with his years of experience he has other options.
Not so sure they are irrelevant - why should a brand new teacher start out making such big bucks? How many kids coming out of college every year really make more then $50,000? Sure, some fields might, but not the majority. And people are free to choose other careers if the money is a deal breaker. Also, the OP does have experience, he's not a newbie. If the money here is not right for him with his years of experience he has other options.
loves - I asked the OP where he came from and he mentioned Georgia. North Carolina and Georgia can't be too dissimilar on a salary basis. Considering the OP has 13 years of experience, he might well find a close match between here and what he made in Georgia.
r-rated - The OP might be better off in NC with that $165,000 home and a lower salary than say San Francisco where a $50,000 starting salary would be looked on as a joke in an area with $700,000 "starter homes".
GA actually does pay better than NC. I believe it is a good 30-35% more in GA. I do not know how their benefits packages work though.
For any teachers.....NC does pay an additional 7% of your salary if you get your National Boards. That would help considerably and make you more marketable.
Dawn
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loves - I asked the OP where he came from and he mentioned Georgia. North Carolina and Georgia can't be too dissimilar on a salary basis. Considering the OP has 13 years of experience, he might well find a close match between here and what he made in Georgia.
r-rated - The OP might be better off in NC with that $165,000 home and a lower salary than say San Francisco where a $50,000 starting salary would be looked on as a joke in an area with $700,000 "starter homes".
Is there a link for this did you say? I don't see it.
Principals don't even make that much here (or that is their top amount.) I don't know how they are making that amount.
Never mind, I think I found it....yeah, they must have national boards, or coach or something AND they have 30 plus years of experience.
Dawn
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WOW, look at these salaries, pretty nice I'd say. I removed the teachers names but anyone can see this info by clicking on the link. Teachers underpaid, my foot. And this is just a sampling...
Yearly Salary Location
$87,578 LEARNING COMMUNITY CENTRL Details
$82,992 STAFF DEVELOPMENT CENTER Details
$78,201 ACADEMICALLY GIFTED Details
$78,201 INDEPENDENCE HIGH SCHOOL Details
$77,764 MYERS PARK HIGH SCHOOL Details
$77,276 DAVID W BUTLER HIGH SCH Details
$76,105 MORGAN SCHOOL Details
$75,198 ESL Details
$75,198 LANGUAGE ACQUISITION Details
$74,746 ALBEMARLE ROAD ELEMENTARY Details
$74,746 ALEXANDER MIDDLE SCHOOL Details
$74,746 BAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL Details
$74,746 BERRY ACADEMY OF TECHNOLOGY Details
$74,746 BERRYHILL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL Details
$74,746 COMMUNITY HOUSE MIDDLE Details
$74,746 COMMUNITY HOUSE MIDDLE Details
$74,746 COMMUNITY HOUSE MIDDLE Details
$74,746 CRESTDALE MIDDLE Details
$74,746 DAVID W BUTLER HIGH SCH Details
$74,746 DAVID W BUTLER HIGH SCH Details
$74,746 DAVID W BUTLER HIGH SCH Details
$74,746 DAVID W BUTLER HIGH SCH Details
$74,746 E.E. WADDELL HIGH SCHOOL Details
$74,746 E.E. WADDELL HIGH SCHOOL Details
$74,746 EAST MECKLENBURG HIGH SCHOOL
If you are single and just starting out, sharing an apt, that sort of thing, you will be fine.
But buying a car on payments, paying for any kind of full time child care (700 min. per child typically and $200 per kid for after school care) and if you have to support an entire family and pay $585 for health care (and that doesn't include vision or dental!), it would be very hard to make it as a beginning teacher.
I was disappointed with the pay, but there were some other reasons I quit as well. BTW: I had my last job for 16.5 years and never quit at all, so it isn't normal for me to do this.
Dawn
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"teacher323" also go back to page five on this thread and see the post by "Dawn", she is a teacher who has lived what you are about to go through if you do become a teacher in NC. She agrees that the pay is too low and you will not be able to support yourself on that salary. NC must increase teachers' pay
GA actually does pay better than NC. I believe it is a good 30-35% more in GA. I do not know how their benefits packages work though.
For any teachers.....NC does pay an additional 7% of your salary if you get your National Boards. That would help considerably and make you more marketable.
Dawn
Thanks Dawn, I assumed that since the housing prices of the Charlotte and Atlanta areas are so similar that teacher salaries might also be. I used the SF housing as an example because I end up watching all those HDTV shows and have seen more than a few episodes where those expensive houses are so small you couldn't swing a cat in one! I often wondered what those 30-somethings did for a living that they could be looking at a million+ houses. I suspect they weren't teachers! NC seems to make such a big deal over Nat'l Board certification. I don't remember hearing much about them in NJ. Were they good for extra salary in CA? I wonder if the OP's mention of a specialist in Admin is something along those lines for an administrative position?
National Boards does help. In LA I think the additional salary was a set $7,000. I did not get it because I was a school counselor and when I left they didn't offer National Boards in school counseling. They have added it now and if were to go back to work I would go for it.
Yeah, I was surpised about GA pay and the highest salaries are of course in the Atlanta area and in the inner-city area, which I would actually relish. I worked in inner-city (yes, on purpose!) in LA and loved it.
Our house was much smaller in LA. Basically, if you bought before 2001 you are fine/set. If you have to buy after that, and now, after the jumbo loan issues, you could be in trouble.
In the past lenders wanted to give you a 500K loan if you made about $90K, sometimes even less.
Dawn
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Thanks Dawn, I assumed that since the housing prices of the Charlotte and Atlanta areas are so similar that teacher salaries might also be. I used the SF housing as an example because I end up watching all those HDTV shows and have seen more than a few episodes where those expensive houses are so small you couldn't swing a cat in one! I often wondered what those 30-somethings did for a living that they could be looking at a million+ houses. I suspect they weren't teachers! NC seems to make such a big deal over Nat'l Board certification. I don't remember hearing much about them in NJ. Were they good for extra salary in CA? I wonder if the OP's mention of a specialist in Admin is something along those lines for an administrative position?
Is there a link for this did you say? I don't see it.
Principals don't even make that much here (or that is their top amount.) I don't know how they are making that amount.
Never mind, I think I found it....yeah, they must have national boards, or coach or something AND they have 30 plus years of experience.
Dawn
Glad you found the link, it was on post 58 for anyone else looking. Those are teacher salaries, not administrators. Now I know not all teachers are at that level, but the experienced ones are doing okay and not starving.
National Boards does help. In LA I think the additional salary was a set $7,000. I did not get it because I was a school counselor and when I left they didn't offer National Boards in school counseling. They have added it now and if were to go back to work I would go for it.
Yeah, I was surpised about GA pay and the highest salaries are of course in the Atlanta area and in the inner-city area, which I would actually relish. I worked in inner-city (yes, on purpose!) in LA and loved it.
Our house was much smaller in LA. Basically, if you bought before 2001 you are fine/set. If you have to buy after that, and now, after the jumbo loan issues, you could be in trouble.
In the past lenders wanted to give you a 500K loan if you made about $90K, sometimes even less.
Dawn
Dawn, As I said in another post, I think the "happiest teachers" are those who got their 30+ years in, are pushing 60, sold their house in the NE or CA in late 2004 or early 2005, took their hefty pensions and moved here!
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