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Old 12-25-2017, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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You are missing the mark here. A new school in the 5th ward would have to have been funded via property taxes. Either construction/operation or just the operations cost.
You are missing the mark. The reason the referendum failed had nothing to do with tax sensitivity. It failed because Evanstonians reject segregated schools. The inclusion of a 5th ward school doomed the referendum.

There was an elementary school in the 5th ward for decades, but the demographics of Evanston make a neighborhood school in a predominately minority neighborhood intolerable. Evanston buses minority students and divides the 5th ward into multiple elementary school assignments, because of the community's desire to integrate.

I voted against the proposal because I do not support segregated schools in Evanston. I couldn't have cared less about the property tax implications. Evanston's wealthiest neighborhoods, those along the lakefront and in the northwest, overwhelmingly rejected the referendum.
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Old 01-03-2018, 06:30 PM
 
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You are missing the mark. The reason the referendum failed had nothing to do with tax sensitivity. It failed because Evanstonians reject segregated schools. The inclusion of a 5th ward school doomed the referendum.

There was an elementary school in the 5th ward for decades, but the demographics of Evanston make a neighborhood school in a predominately minority neighborhood intolerable. Evanston buses minority students and divides the 5th ward into multiple elementary school assignments, because of the community's desire to integrate.

I voted against the proposal because I do not support segregated schools in Evanston. I couldn't have cared less about the property tax implications. Evanston's wealthiest neighborhoods, those along the lakefront and in the northwest, overwhelmingly rejected the referendum.
Keep telling yourself that.

Only the most naive of Evanston’s liberal elite would state that it failed because nobody wanted a majority AA elementary school. Bottom line is, the money to pay for such a new school would involve property tax increases on homeowners. Past a certain point, it won’t always fly, even in gilded EV along the lakefront.
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Old 01-03-2018, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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And remember that with the new tax bill that was passed you can only deduct up to $10k in property taxes!


https://www.biggerpockets.com/renews...-gop-tax-plan/
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Old 01-04-2018, 02:13 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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Keep telling yourself that.

Only the most naive of Evanston’s liberal elite would state that it failed because nobody wanted a majority AA elementary school. Bottom line is, the money to pay for such a new school would involve property tax increases on homeowners. Past a certain point, it won’t always fly, even in gilded EV along the lakefront.
My neighbors and I did not want to construct a community school that would have drawn nearly all of the minority students currently attending the elementary schools in northern Evanston and Skokie/Evanston away from those schools. Those Evanston wards that would have lost the most low income and minority students were those that voted most strongly against the proposal. While my local elementary school's boundaries are not drawn to include a minority enclave, it is a major recipient of minority and low income children through the permissive transfer program. Evanston/Skokie 65's busing for integration has very strong support among the district's white and affluent residents, including me. If the 2012 referendum had only included improvements to existing schools it would have passed easily.

Neighborhoods split on school referendum
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West side residents divided over 5th Ward school
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Evanston votes down new elementary school, but debate continues

A not insubstantial tax increase for schools was passed in the last local election with broad support. This referendum did not include a 5th ward school.

Voters in Evanston/Skokie School District 65 overwhelmingly support $14.5M tax hike
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