hipster area (Berwyn, Bridgeport: buy, live, restaurants)

[xavier xerxes]

Originally Posted by Rewind4

It's true.

Like I said before, I'm 25, and it's funny (and ironic...) to see people I grew up with who had the best clothes, bicyles, and other things to suddenly pop up in neighborhoods they would have called "ghetto" (out of ignorance) back in high-school, looking like they could only choose their mom's clothes she put away 30 years ago, riding mutilated old bikes that they wouldn't be seen dead on only 10 years prior ( I've been riding old touring bikes since I learned how to do so....).

They're raving about little dive bars and old restaurants in places like Berwyn, Bridgeport and "West Logan Square" (aka Hermosa), places that I was laughed at by them back in the day for growing up in and having relatives in. They're frequenting thrift stores as though they were paid to do so, something I've shopped at my entire life.

They aren't changing the world; they're just exploiting aspects of the average blue-collar worker's way of life back in the 20th century. It's ironic to be average, look poor, and pretend to be thrifty when you grew up with a Lexus and Land Rover in a 4-bedroom suburban house, ya know.

Yeah its weird im 37 and this happened 30 years ago plus with the Yuppies
I grew up in Lincoln Park and I remember
people getting pissed off with yuppies in the Eighties, so Yeah this makes me feel old and yeah this is nothing new. Its just different,
I actually remember being a little pissed off seeing the
new yuppies come in with their fancy beamers and sports cars
and either gutting old building or tearing them down and putting up new ones, that definitely happened with a vengeance during the eighties and nineties on seminary, wrightwood, lincoln etc.....

, but maybe the hipsters are actually living within their means
and have realized that expensive stuff isnt where its at and they are trying out something new. They find the city more interesting, nothing wrong with that either.

Dive bars and weird old restaurants are more interesting than bland suburbia, recycling old bikes and clothes is good within reason.
I have seen some people that look like they are trying to hard for sure.
And while I like old stuff and dive bars and such, Im told too old to be a hispster, I also was born and raised in Chicago but I might be mistaken for a yuppie since I have a professional degree and live in the city, anyways.....

Its ironic to a certain extent what you are describing their suburban lifestyle and then they go urban, but maybe their parents were living beyond their means and the suburbs are a crashing bore, gas is expensive and gas guzzlers are bad for the earth, so hey if the current zeitgeist involves looking like a bit of a weirdo and overdoing it with the old clothes and beat up bikes and stuff I will take that over the suburbs ruling the day. Obviously they are finding something in the city that was lacking in the suburbs, not a huge surprise.
Some people try to hard to see the character in something over the superficial and they try to outdo each other, but they do eventually grow up, people in their twenties are still trying to fit in and find out what works for them.

So it looks like some suburbanites came back to the city in the 70s/80s
and now the kids of suburbanites are coming too now, THE HORROR!

Ofcourse without demographics we dont know the breakdown
of this interesting group of hipsters. A study should be done

[xavier xerxes]

Originally Posted by tonythetuna

Look at all the hipsters on the defense. lol

I like to play devils advocate.
Not sure who you are referring too.
Making tons of one line posts does not equal a conservation.

[LakeShoreSoxGo]

Originally Posted by Irishtom29

Old school Chicago hipsters; Anita O'Day singing in Gene Krupa's band.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoSAPaThWJE



Krupa went to Austin and O'Day went to Senn. No mousy little girl with a reedy voice here; O'Day was a true Jazz singer and lived the life.

The trumpet player is Roy Eldridge.

Love Roy Eldridge, rep points to you, sir.

[LakeShoreSoxGo]

Originally Posted by Rewind4

It's true.

Like I said before, I'm 25, and it's funny (and ironic...) to see people I grew up with who had the best clothes, bicyles, and other things to suddenly pop up in neighborhoods they would have called "ghetto" (out of ignorance) back in high-school, looking like they could only choose their mom's clothes she put away 30 years ago, riding mutilated old bikes that they wouldn't be seen dead on only 10 years prior ( I've been riding old touring bikes since I learned how to do so....).

They're raving about little dive bars and old restaurants in places like Berwyn, Bridgeport and "West Logan Square" (aka Hermosa), places that I was laughed at by them back in the day for growing up in and having relatives in. They're frequenting thrift stores as though they were paid to do so, something I've shopped at my entire life.

They aren't changing the world; they're just exploiting aspects of the average blue-collar worker's way of life back in the 20th century. It's ironic to be average, look poor, and pretend to be thrifty when you grew up with a Lexus and Land Rover in a 4-bedroom suburban house, ya know.

I feel this post resonates with me the most. As child growing up, my father would take me to my nannie's on week ends when my parents went away. He was adamant about me learning how others survive and how most "average" people live day to day. It is something that never left me, and probably has a lot to do with how I have lived my life.

I find ironic mockery of "blue collar" people to be something of very poor taste. Do you see mothers shopping at thrift stores getting "stoaked" over an "epic" used sweater? Do children wearing 'hand-me-downs' look happy when they get on the bus to school every morning? Are parents thrilled when they have to look for a new dwelling when the lease is up? These things may be an urban game to hipsters, but it is not for those who actually have no choice.

[xavier xerxes]

Originally Posted by LakeShoreSoxGo

I feel this post resonates with me the most. As child growing up, my father would take me to my nannie's on week ends when my parents went away. He was adamant about me learning how others survive and how most "average" people live day to day. It is something that never left me, and probably has a lot to do with how I have lived my life.

I find ironic mockery of "blue collar" people to be something of very poor taste. Do you see mothers shopping at thrift stores getting "stoaked" over an "epic" used sweater? Do children wearing 'hand-me-downs' look happy when they get on the bus to school every morning? Are parents thrilled when they have to look for a new dwelling when the lease is up? These things may be an urban game to hipsters, but it is not for those who actually have no choice.

Yeah and that post most non resonates with me.
I dont think people are up late at night planning some strange urban game to kick out the current inhabitants. Apparently you feel that you have rights to your neigborhood for all time. I dont feel that making fun of blue collar life is okay. And its "STOKED", an old westcoast slang coopted by fools in the midwest for the most part. Its just currently the opposite of white flight. Whites/those with money were bad for leaving the city and now are bad for coming back.

The opposite ghettoification, are parents thrilled when their neigborhood turns into the pits? Neither is something that anyone asked for,
gentrification or ghettoification, but really very rarely are neigborhoods static unchanging entities. Some neigborhoods have been nice for a very long time and others have been sucky for a very long time. But that changes. Either you constantly complain about the changes, or
you adapt or move on.

I guess people should only look for used clothes if they are forced to.
Why is going to thrift shops bad? Should someone have to prove they have a certain income to qualify to shop there?

[LakeShoreSoxGo]

Originally Posted by xavier xerxes

Yeah and that post most non resonates with me.
I dont think people are up late at night planning some strange urban game to kick out the current inhabitants. Apparently you feel that you have rights to your neigborhood for all time. I dont feel that making fun of blue collar life is okay. And its "STOKED", an old westcoast slang coopted by fools in the midwest for the most part. Its just currently the opposite of white flight. Whites/those with money were bad for leaving the city and now are bad for coming back.

The opposite ghettoification, are parents thrilled when their neigborhood turns into the pits? Neither is something that anyone asked for,
gentrification or ghettoification, but really very rarely are neigborhoods static unchanging entities. Some neigborhoods have been nice for a very long time and others have been sucky for a very long time. But that changes. Either you constantly complain about the changes, or
you adapt or move on.

I guess people should only look for used clothes if they are forced to.
Why is going to thrift shops bad? Should someone have to prove they have a certain income to qualify to shop there?

Don't get your skinnys in a bunch. If a post "most non resonates" (lol) with you , address the person who wrote it.

[xavier xerxes]

Originally Posted by LakeShoreSoxGo

Don't get your skinnys in a bunch. If a post "most non resonates" (lol) with you , address the person who wrote it.

But I was disagreeing with your post about that post,
so you if dont like my post to your post than you should address this
disagreement with the disagreeing party.
This is basically a nonpost.
Yeah, one liner snide comments are a great response.
You must have learned that from tony the tuna. Also its pretty unoriginal.
Its what people do when they cant make any valid counterarguments.

[Drover]

junter, I don't read PMs from brand-new members, so don't bother sending any more.

[Drover]

Originally Posted by junterXD

Avengerfire is tonythetuna and the guy ran over to [domain blocked due to spam] forums under the name pitythefools talking crap about many of you posters here. Drover he talked about you as well.

I can't think of a single compelling reason to care what he or any of the [domain blocked due to spam] twerps have to say about me, or why it's gravely important to keep informing us that there's a klatch of whiners who don't like City-Data. We don't care.

[Drover]

Originally Posted by junterXD

You should.

And yet... I don't. But thanks for playing.