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Even if I was making the grades, I would never join a fraternity. I don't need to be a group to feel love and acceptance like most of them. I accept myself and am happy as an individual that can think for himself and be completely independent in life. I am honestly at a loss as to why anyone would be interested in the sorority/fraternity lifestyle. It's such a hierarchy and full of so many ridiculous obligations and red tape. Not to mention fees. When my sister (who wants to join a sorority and is in the process) told me about the fees and finances associated with becoming a member, I thought it was complete BS and insanity. How on Earth do you have to pay large sums of money every year for the rest of your life just to be in a glorified club?! With no benefits besides meeting up with other members in various locations across the country. Child, I tell ya. People will make money off anything!
Even if I was making the grades, I would never join a fraternity. I don't need to be a group to feel love and acceptance like most of them. I accept myself and am happy as an individual that can think for himself and be completely independent in life. I am honestly at a loss as to why anyone would be interested in the sorority/fraternity lifestyle. It's such a hierarchy and full of so many ridiculous obligations and red tape. Not to mention fees. When my sister (who wants to join a sorority and is in the process) told me about the fees and finances associated with becoming a member, I thought it was complete BS and insanity. How on Earth do you have to pay large sums of money every year for the rest of your life just to be in a glorified club?! With no benefits besides meeting up with other members in various locations across the country. Child, I tell ya. People will make money off anything!
Some Frats do a lot of good.
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I have often considered the oath that we were taught as children 'pledging allegiance to the flag'. I recite it often at various events; that flag represents an organization that rarely glorifies God.
The United States' flag doesn't represent an organization. It represents a country.
If either of my sons wanted to join a Fraternity, I'd probably discourage it. Not because of some oath, but because of the behavior I saw while in college. The hazing, heavy drinking, and using women for sexual conquests. And then some members I've known, once in the work world, seem to be narcissistic, entitled d-bags. I would imagine Christian fraternities would be different though.
Many professing Christians are involved in a fraternity or sorority. Should you, as a Christian, be involved in such organizations? You have probably asked yourself this question before you pledged if you are in a fraternity or sorority already. So let's see what the bible says about this, and you judge for yourself.
Before I continue, the secret orders would disagree with me and would argue that they aren't doing anything satanic or demonic. It's an organization that supports brotherhood and sisterhood and for helping with gaining employment etc. They believe that you don’t need all the facts before making a decision on whether or not to join their fraternities or sororities. I know this because you don’t get all the facts until AFTER you become a member of these organizations. This is why these organizations are sometimes referred to as ‘secret societies.’ So for those of you who already have joined, it is too late to decide whether or not you want to join an organization AFTER you have already become a member.
But the first point that I would like to make here concerns the swearing of oaths. This is a practice required by all these fraternities and sororities as a pre-requisite prior to initiation. Let see what the Scriptures teach on swearing an oath.
But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil. Matthew 5:34-37 KJV
But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation. James 5:12 KJV
From reading the Word of God in the above two verses, it can be plainly understood that Christians are not to swear oaths at all. Their communication is to be ‘yes’ or ‘no’ and not more than this. Swearing an oath is to go further than your ‘yes’ or ‘no’ and bind yourself by something you deem greater. This is clearly forbidden by the above texts. Now to go to the extreme and swear upon God’s Name or by God at all demonstrates either willful disobedience of these texts or ignorance concerning the meaning of them.
This would be a personal matter. The only problem I see is with swearing an oath and not knowing all that was involved. In doing so you could be in a position that God despises and then it is too late. Yes you could leave, abandoning your oath to please God, but a little forethought could have avoided the problem
If you don't know everything, then say no to taking the oath.
If either of my sons wanted to join a Fraternity, I'd probably discourage it. Not because of some oath, but because of the behavior I saw while in college. The hazing, heavy drinking, and using women for sexual conquests. And then some members I've known, once in the work world, seem to be narcissistic, entitled d-bags. I would imagine Christian fraternities would be different though.
And you have no real control over who else is a member and you are known by your association .... so better to avoid problems than just do it to have fun, make freinds for business later, etc.
This would be a personal matter. The only problem I see is with swearing an oath and not knowing all that was involved. In doing so you could be in a position that God despises and then it is too late. Yes you could leave, abandoning your oath to please God, but a little forethought could have avoided the problem
If you don't know everything, then say no to taking the oath.
Well, hell. Using your bizarre logic nobody should join the Boy Scouts or say the Pledge of Allegiance either. Nor should they swear to tell the truth on the stand in a court of law.
I never said no one should pledge or join a boy scout. I think you taking what I used from Scripture to think I am telling Christians not to pledge or join the boy scouts. What I am trying to attempt is to get people to dialogue about a topic that has not really been addressed, yet it's taught in Scripture about taking oaths. My logic is based on Scripture.
If either of my sons wanted to join a Fraternity, I'd probably discourage it. Not because of some oath, but because of the behavior I saw while in college. The hazing, heavy drinking, and using women for sexual conquests. And then some members I've known, once in the work world, seem to be narcissistic, entitled d-bags. I would imagine Christian fraternities would be different though.
I think that Fraternities and Sororities that are on college campuses, are very different from others.
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