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Old 08-19-2014, 10:40 AM
 
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Because the self-righteous ones want it to be true, nate. They want to be special in God's eyes. It is an attitude that reveals a complete lack of agape love. Very, very sad.
And a lack of humility and honesty about oneself, I might add.
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:04 PM
 
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Jesus ,when speaking to the Pharisees said their Father was the devil so the
children of God and the devils children are not the same.
Then, Peacegiver, your father was the devil, right? We were all once the devil's children. God loves the devil's children.

Ephesians 2

And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together [g]with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus



We were all the devil's children. We are all the children of God also because all things are of God. The devil's children are ultimately God's children because we are all God's offspring.


Acts

22 So Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, “Men of Athens, I observe that you are very religious in all respects. 23 For while I was passing through and examining the objects of your worship, I also found an altar with this inscription, ‘TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.’ Therefore what you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you. 24 The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; 26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’ 29 Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. 30 Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead


God bless.
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Old 08-20-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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^THIS too soon for "rep"
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Old 08-20-2014, 06:26 PM
 
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Why are erring or rebelious children no longer children?
Because the self righteous forgot they were former prodigals or have yet to be a prodigal.
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Old 08-20-2014, 08:26 PM
 
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And a lack of humility and honesty about oneself, I might add.
As the Lord says; "The Lord guides the humble to justice and He teaches the meek His way."

Come to me all you who are weary and carry a heavy load and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me for I am meek and humble of heart and you will find rest for yourselves for my yoke is upright and my burden is light.
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Old 08-20-2014, 11:24 PM
 
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How often have you heard people confidently proclaim, “We are all God’s children”? It is as though to suggest that nothing in this world could every separate anyone from God, who will one day simply proclaim, “kids will be kids,” as he ‘winks at’ the wicked, rebellious lives of many. This is actually a lie of Satan, designed to keep people complacent and oblivious to God’s very purpose for man in this life: “That we enter into the eternal spiritual life and relationship God offers all through Jesus Christ. Sadly, many will refuse God’s offer and will not receive true life or enter into God’s eternal kingdom … now or forever.


While all people are naturally born into this world as God’s creation, only those who believe and trust God for true life in Christ Jesus … are ‘born again’ as God’s ‘adopted’ sons and daughters (through the indwelling power of God’s Holy Spirit). Those without Christ are not born again to Spiritual life and do not have the indwelling Holy Spirit. To them, the things of God are foolishness, because they are spiritually discerned (2 Cor 2:14-15) --- Jesus told Nicodemus (John 3), “Unless you are born again, you will not enter the Kingdom of heaven” --- He did not say, “But, not to worry; if you are not born again, our ‘loving God’ is sure to make many exceptions.”


Just a few of many Bible passages that affirm our choice in this ‘adoption’ include: “Come out from among them … and I will be as a Father to you (2 Cor 6:17-18); “You are of your father the devil (John 8:44); “Those without the Son, have neither the Father or the Son” (1 John 2:23); “…that we might receive the adoption of Sons (Gal 4:5). There are many other examples, but, the bottom line is that spiritual rebirth and ‘adoption’ into God’s family is the only basis for spiritual life and relationship with God … in this life or the next.
I have to agree with you on every Scripture reference that you noted. I am sure many would disagree with you. But the truth hurts as well as set all of us free.
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