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View Poll Results: Will Christ fail to accomplish Gods desire to save all people?
Yes 13 23.21%
No 31 55.36%
I don't believe that Jesus is the word of God! 12 21.43%
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:14 AM
 
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Men think God cannot accomplish what He desires,purely because of their own failure to do so,not realizing thinking this way is carnally minded,and the very reason nothing is accomplished in their own lives.God IS willing and able to do exceedingly above what we can think or imagine. Maybe we should start using thinking different.

 
Old 07-14-2011, 04:56 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Men think God cannot accomplish what He desires,purely because of their own failure to do so,not realizing thinking this way is carnally minded,and the very reason nothing is accomplished in their own lives.God IS willing and able to do exceedingly above what we can think or imagine. Maybe we should start using thinking different.
An amazing scriptural promise to lay hold of!
 
Old 07-14-2011, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Even so... 100% is 100%

100% of those who believe
 
Old 07-14-2011, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Exclamation God will have all men to be saved

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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
100% of those who believe
Sooner or later 100% will believe because
"God will have all men to be saved"
 
Old 07-14-2011, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Sooner or later 100% will believe because
"God will have all men to be saved"
Final reply, since I know you will just copy & paste the same reply to everything.

Luke 13
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Luke 13:23-28 Someone asked him, "Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?"
He said to them, 24"Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, 'Sir, open the door for us.'
"But he will answer,
'I don't know you or where you come from.'
26"Then you will say, 'We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.'
27"But he will reply, 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!' 28"There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.



Jesus specifically says that you must "Make every effort to enter through the narrow door" because " for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." So, straight out of mouth of Jesus Christ himself, NOT EVERYONE IS ABLE TO ENTER.

He says " 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!' and it continues ""There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out."

It is plain to see that lines up with the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, where the rich man could see Abraham and Lazarus in the distance, but he had been cast out to the other side.

And in Matthew he says again "there are few who find it." Not many, but FEW. And definitely not ALL. These are the words of Jesus Christ.

You MUST enter through the narrow gate, "and there are few who find it".:

“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is
the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go
in by it.
Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way
which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
“For many are called, but few are chosen.”
Matthew 22:14


Again he repeats "“For many are called, but few are chosen.” .

Note the words "IF YOU ENTER" below. Either you enter or you don't.
I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and
will go in and out and find pasture. John 10:9

The Bible makes clear that salvation is available to ALL, but Jesus says that "many will not find the door", and "many will not be able to enter", and to those who choose to reject Him, he says 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!"

The Bible does not teach that all will be saved, and this is why universalism is a huge deception.
 
Old 07-14-2011, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Exclamation Timothy believed it. So do I.

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Final reply
Well, this is probably not my "final" reply because it gives me great pleasure to keep repeating that sooner or later "God will have all men to be saved." In spite of all of your verses God will find a way to achieve that. Otherwise God wouldn't have had Timothy say it.

Timothy believed it.
So do I.
 
Old 07-14-2011, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Exclamation But now, how can I distrust God?

A.E. Knoch was one of the most prominent URs of the last century, and he believed the Bible is the word of God.

In the summation of one of his books he wrote,

"I, for one, freely confess that, without a knowledge of the consummation, when God will reconcile all and become All in all, I could not have confidence in a deity who allowed the world to work itself into such a mess, and who can do little more for most men than to sweep them into destruction, extinction or torment.

But now, how can I distrust God? Mankind is just where He has brought it. The effect of all the present evil and distress will be salutary. God will get glory out of it, and men will be prepared by it to appreciate the gifts He has in store for them all."

THE PROBLEM OF EVIL AND THE JUDGMENTS OF GOD – A.E. KNOCH
biblical studies: The Problem of Evil and the Judgments of God - Contents

And I say AMEN!!!
 
Old 07-14-2011, 06:51 AM
 
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The Bible does not teach that all will be saved, and this is why universalism is a huge deception.

The deception is that you post a verse, provide your commentary that explains what the verses means and you call that the truth while expecting others to provide verses saying specific things you expect thereby creating the illusion that your argument has merit.
 
Old 07-14-2011, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The deception is that you post a verse, provide your commentary that explains what the verses means and you call that the truth while expecting others to provide verses saying specific things you expect thereby creating the illusion that your argument has merit.
Do you have something to say about Luke 13?

Apparently not.
 
Old 07-14-2011, 06:58 AM
 
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100% of those who believe while under heaven.
Jesus didn't go seek the lost sheep after the sheep died.

Certainly he did, that is one thing we can gain from the story of lazarus.

If once your dead it is over, then Jesus must of just been performing a parlor trick to impress the ladies.
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