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Old 11-25-2011, 05:45 PM
 
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The anti-Christ deception of the trinity belief can not bear-up under scrutiny using an accurately translated Bible.
Anti Christ is a person of the revelation times.
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Old 11-25-2011, 06:19 PM
 
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Default Right, but on a different point.

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Anti Christ is a person of the revelation times.
Read the initial post to understand the context of the discussion.

You are correct in the personage for THE Aniti-Christ being identified in Revelation. However, this is not germane to the bullet point 1) of the initial post identifying an anti-Christ message that is also prevalent even prior to the appearance of the personage.
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Old 11-26-2011, 05:15 AM
 
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First off .... Jesus said that to the crowd who was attempting to stone him because Jesus claim to be God. ( not a God .. or a "personage" or like a God only superseded the Father ). Jesus claimed the same rights and authority as God.

Second ... Jesus revealed that in the small "g" not the capitol "G" which refers to the one and only true God. Jesus was quoting Psalm 82:6 in which God was mocking them:
“They know nothing, they understand nothing.
They walk about in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.

“I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’

But you will die like mere men;
you will fall like every other ruler.”

the fact is just the opposite of what you're trying to make it.... the useage of "gods" was done in sarcasm.
Amen.... Twin,
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:46 AM
 
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I don't see where the bible speaks about one Antichrist, but rather there are many antichrists.
Yes he is named as here in 1 John 4:3:

τοῦ= of the
ἀντιχρίστου=the antichrist [note the tou at the end of the word antichrist making it a definite 'being.']

And here in 1 John 2:22:
ho ὁ= the

antichristos ἀντίχριστος=antichrist

And here in 2 John 1:7:
kai καὶ= and
ho ὁ the
antichristos ἀντίχριστος= antichrist

Aslo note each time the definite article ho [the] before the word antichrist.
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Old 03-11-2012, 07:31 AM
 
Location: RI
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The trinity belief is one of the most insidious anti-Christ deceptions. What better way to lead people astray than to obfuscate the identity of the one we must believe in.

People have been convinced to believe in a teaching that is unreasoning, illogical, mysterious, and non-Biblical.

So many people have strong faith in the false trinity. This is a key part of the deception. You are required to check your intellect at the door in order to believe in it therefore those followers have an undiscerning allegiance, which requires immeasurable amounts blind faith. Since they have been taught a strong "faith" is required, they get that immediate gratification that they are "believing by faith".

I well understand the library of faux academics to support the false trinity belief, it is not devoid of a detailed narrative. However, the abundance of supporting obfuscation does not validate the initial deception. The alarming part is that people are deceived into believing it even though after all the explanations there is not even ONE of the tenets of that belief articulated in the Bible.

The accurate teachings of the Christ were attacked immediately and that anti-Christ message has been perpetuated until this day in the false teachings of a trinity belief.
Good post.
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Old 03-11-2012, 08:56 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BWW1962
The trinity belief is one of the most insidious anti-Christ deceptions. What better way to lead people astray than to obfuscate the identity of the one we must believe in.

People have been convinced to believe in a teaching that is unreasoning, illogical, mysterious, and non-Biblical.

So many people have strong faith in the false trinity. This is a key part of the deception. You are required to check your intellect at the door in order to believe in it therefore those followers have an undiscerning allegiance, which requires immeasurable amounts blind faith. Since they have been taught a strong "faith" is required, they get that immediate gratification that they are "believing by faith".

I well understand the library of faux academics to support the false trinity belief, it is not devoid of a detailed narrative. However, the abundance of supporting obfuscation does not validate the initial deception. The alarming part is that people are deceived into believing it even though after all the explanations there is not even ONE of the tenets of that belief articulated in the Bible.

The accurate teachings of the Christ were attacked immediately and that anti-Christ message has been perpetuated until this day in the false teachings of a trinity belief.
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Good post.
We'll see how "good" that was when one is accountable for every careless spoken word.
Matthew 12:36
But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.

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Old 03-11-2012, 09:03 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BWW1962
The trinity belief is one of the most insidious anti-Christ deceptions. What better way to lead people astray than to obfuscate the identity of the one we must believe in.

People have been convinced to believe in a teaching that is unreasoning, illogical, mysterious, and non-Biblical.

So many people have strong faith in the false trinity. This is a key part of the deception. You are required to check your intellect at the door in order to believe in it therefore those followers have an undiscerning allegiance, which requires immeasurable amounts blind faith. Since they have been taught a strong "faith" is required, they get that immediate gratification that they are "believing by faith".

I well understand the library of faux academics to support the false trinity belief, it is not devoid of a detailed narrative. However, the abundance of supporting obfuscation does not validate the initial deception. The alarming part is that people are deceived into believing it even though after all the explanations there is not even ONE of the tenets of that belief articulated in the Bible.

The accurate teachings of the Christ were attacked immediately and that anti-Christ message has been perpetuated until this day in the false teachings of a trinity belief.


We'll see how "good" that was when one is accountable for every careless spoken word.
Matthew 12:36
But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.

Tut tut using the bible now to threaten folk.
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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Tut tut using the bible now to threaten folk.
And Jesus is only a threat to those who hate him ; must be why the demons cried out in fear everytime he confronted them.

Maybe that is why Jesus called those who hate him "children of the devil" ..... because Jesus was a threat.

Do you feel threatened by Jesus?
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:19 AM
 
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And Jesus is only a threat to those who hate him ; must be why the demons cried out in fear everytime he confronted them.

Maybe that is why Jesus called those who hate him "children of the devil" ..... because Jesus was a threat.

Do you feel threatened by Jesus?
Lol. It is you using the bible to threaten me. Not God, just your own veiled view of the scripture. There is nothing threatening about the Word of God, the word of God is Life and Liberty, not some devilish threat by those who mishandle the word by their anti Christ mindset.
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Old 03-11-2012, 04:34 PM
 
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Lol. It is you using the bible to threaten me. Not God, just your own veiled view of the scripture. There is nothing threatening about the Word of God, the word of God is Life and Liberty, not some devilish threat by those who mishandle the word by their anti Christ mindset.
It is truly ironic, pcamps . . . that the prophecy of the great anti-christ deception that would overtake the church in the "latter days" was made over 2000 years ago. That makes the past 2000+ years the "latter days" of the 1st century Christians! The Christian churches today ARE the descendants of the apostate and anti-Christ versions of Christianity that were warned about 2000+ years ago.
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