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Finn Jarber what does this verse of scripture mean to you ?
If you, O LORD, kept a record of sins, O Lord, who could stand? But with you there is forgiveness; therefore you are feared.
Psalm 130:3-4.Who is keeping record ? God or Christianity ?
God. An all knowing God is obviously a better record keeper than "Christianity". I have not heard of "Christianity" even attempting to keep record of people's sins.
How does the poem start? Lord, hear my voice. Let your ears be attentive to my cry for mercy. The author cries out to God for mercy, and he receives mercy because it is God's promise to save those who will accept his mercy. The records of the believers are wiped clean. The truth is that no unbeliever will be able to stand when the books are opened. Do not be fooled into thinking God doesn't know about our sins.
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I have made it absolutely unequivocally clear to you, that you are not punished beyond the grave for what you have reaped in this life.
That is not what I asked. The Bible does not talk about your double jeopardy theory, but it is besides the point because that is not what I asked.
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when you say there is concequence for sin, you mean you pay the concequence in this life, and there is nothing unpleasant on the other side of the grave? Maybe some correction, and education, but nothing to worry about. Right? This is what I am trying to understand.
Assume that you die in unbelief, and you had committed 10 sins in your life, and reaped the consequences for 3 of them before you died. OK? Now, are you saying you will not have to answer for the other 7 (and the matter of rejection of God) on the other side of the grave, other than by some correction, and education?
That is not what I asked. The Bible does not talk about your double jeopardy theory, but it is besides the point because that is not what I asked.
Assume that you die in unbelief, and you had committed 10 sins in your life, and reaped the consequences for 3 of them before you died. OK? Now, are you saying you will not have to answer for the other 7 (and the matter of rejection of God) on the other side of the grave, other than by some correction, and education?
God is not mocked a man reaps what he sows. If you are counting sin,guess what ?. I really hope your theory of sin being counted is scriptual .
This question is for you Finn.. what does this verse of scripture mean to you ? ...If you, O LORD, kept a record of sins, O Lord, who could stand? But with you there is forgiveness; therefore you are feared.Psalm 130:3-4.
God is not mocked a man reaps what he sows. If you are counting sin,guess what ?. I really hope your theory of sin being counted is scriptual .
This question is for you Finn.. what does this verse of scripture mean to you ? ...If you, O LORD, kept a record of sins, O Lord, who could stand? But with you there is forgiveness; therefore you are feared.Psalm 130:3-4.
Who is keeping record ? God or Christianity ?
OK, well, I am not going to get an answer, so I'll leave it here. I already answered your question, but you are also OBVIOUSLY still not reading, or comprenending, anything that is posted to you.
OK, well, I am not going to get an answer, so I'll leave it here. I already answered your question, but you are also OBVIOUSLY still not reading, or comprenending, anything that is posted to you.
The author cries out to God for mercy, and he receives mercy because it is God's promise to save those who will accept his mercy.
Saul of Tarsus accepted God's mercy.
In fact, considering the circumstances, it would be absurd to think the he could have refused to accept God's mercy.
Sooner or later, everyone will accept God's mercy when God lays hold on them by His sovereign grace and opens their heart and makes Jesus "choice" like He did for Lydia.
And He will do this for everyone in due time, for He wants all mankind to be saved, and sooner or later, God always gets what He wants.
Neither will physical death put an end to God's mercy, for His mercy endures for the ages, for that period of time during which all sinners need it.
A snippet from THE OUTCOME OF INFINITE GRACE – LOYAL F. HURLEY
“Only as one sees God’s Plan of the Ages do they see the beauty of God’s Program for the redemption of the race.
Heb. 11:3 should read, “Through faith we understand that the ages were planned by the Word of God.” The ages will collectively end. A literal translation of Heb. 9:26 is, ‘But now, once for all, with a view to the end of the ages, has He been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.’
Throughout the eons there is sin and evil, condemnation and death. At the end of the eons all will be justified (Rom. 5:18,19), and all will be reconciled through Christ’s blood (Col. 1:20).
When you perceive the truth concerning the ages your Bible will become a new and more wonderful book than you knew you had.”
God. An all knowing God is obviously a better record keeper than "Christianity". I have not heard of "Christianity" even attempting to keep record of people's sins.
How does the poem start? Lord, hear my voice. Let your ears be attentive to my cry for mercy. The author cries out to God for mercy, and he receives mercy because it is God's promise to save those who will accept his mercy. The records of the believers are wiped clean. The truth is that no unbeliever will be able to stand when the books are opened. Do not be fooled into thinking God doesn't know about our sins.
According to this scripture God is not keeping a record, you post is an attempt to say he is. Christianity(including you) is holding the sin of the world against it, and tells it unless it believes in Jesus it will be punished with eternal torment for its sin. I have forgiven the world, you ought to try it, you will never be the same again.If God is not keeping a record,what business have wee.
If you, O LORD, kept a record of sins, O Lord, who could stand? But with you there is forgiveness; therefore you are feared.Psalm 130:3-4.Why would David say this ? He knows the law of sowing and reaping.
Have you noticed the common thing through all our back and forth's. You are all about God bringing what you perceive as justice upon a sinner(eternal torment, the just punishment for not believing in Jesus),and i have continually spoke of the mercy of God which he will show to All.You ought to be proud of yourself.
I want to bring this scripture back to your attention.
There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
Do you want to drive the fear anyone may have, out of them ?, then preach the love of God, because it drives out fear,you are using fear to try and supress the love and forgiveness of God.
Do you want to drive the fear anyone may have, out of them ?, then preach the love of God, because it drives out fear,you are using fear to try and supress the love and forgiveness of God.
And you are trying to BS people into ignoring the truth.
Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done
And you are trying to BS people into ignoring the truth.
Calling scripure BS
Is this
There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love
Any different to this
Do you want to drive the fear anyone may have, out of them ?, then preach the love of God, because the love of God drives out fear,you are using fear to try and supress the love of God and you are blind to it.
Sin judgement and eternal punishment is your confession not Jesus Christ and all that He IS.
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God's mercy endures for the ages
