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So I bet it's safe to say you won't actually read what I posted. If you don't, I guess that leaves this conversation ended. If you do, talk to later.
I've countered every argument you've given men and all you can do is post a link to your authorities. I'd like to see if you actually know what you're talking about, or if you're just going to blindly accept what your church tells you.
I've countered every argument you've given men and all you can do is post a link to your authorities. I'd like to see if you actually know what you're talking about, or if you're just going to blindly accept what your church tells you.
I found a link for you to read because I have to go to campus and study, and didn't have time to right it all out myself. Work smart, not hard. And I feel I've countered all of yours. So read it or don't. But I'm going for now.
I found a link for you to read because I have to go to campus and study, and didn't have time to right it all out myself. Work smart, not hard. And I feel I've countered all of yours. So read it or don't. But I'm going for now.
Have a good time studying. I guess we'll have to disagree on this one. I grew up catholic, and I've been through the arguments many times on infused versus imputed righteousness. I'm sorry... I just don't buy your arguments.
Yes there is only one Church...MINE!!! Now accept everything my church and denomination says or BURN FOREVA!!!
...Actually I have a feeling that having multiple churches with multiple non-essential doctrines was apart of God's plan to some degree as a way to bring in more people. I think the core essentials mostly make up "the Church" through multiple denominations. Sadly, I'm sure many denominations would disagree what the essentials are.
I do like a sense of humor!! Now go burn in hell...foreva. JUST KIDDING!
19 And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be consecrated in truth. 20 "I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, 23 I in them and thou in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that thou hast sent me and hast loved them even as thou hast loved me.
Is YOUR church obedient to Christ's wishes of becoming perfectly one with your fellow Christians? Do you go to the One Church that Christ created? Are you perfectly One with the Body of Christ. Do you believe that the bread and wine in your communion is actually the real body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ and when you consume the wine and bread you literally become ONE with Jesus Christ? Do you believe that when you consume the host that you actually take in Christ and Christ takes in you as you become one?
As we prepare a path for the coming of the Lord, think and pray about becoming one with Christ and Christ's Church, the Catholic Church.
You had me all the way up to the last two words.
Jesus does have a church. Few attend. Man does not preside over it.
Drop the baggage of the organization and i'm with you brother. Oneness, godliness, discipline. The BE-Attitudes.
God = Go direct. No middlemen, no endless symbology. Just the unfiltered guidance through his Almighty Spirit.
No matter what its a waste of time(arguing). The idea of a church is to guide the people who wish to attend.
By attending here in this forum, guidance and reflective reasoning is in motion, therefore logically attending CD spirituality forum is a church when... sincerely attempting to discover, enhance and bring to life the interior life. Rules in a church are simply guidelines . They MUST be translated against conscience....just as posts need to be translated for value against conscience. Man is a social being. A church is a rational extension of this fact. A church is also an extension of mans "translation: of whatever system. Consequently a Church will never be perfect, representing its members who simply
try...to follow the method which best serves their understood recognition of what will "draw out" the
finest inspiration which allows for fulfillment in the notice of the Spirit within. As each individual is unique and receives Godly inspiration...unique and individually tailored to abilities , talents , experience , mutual friendships ect ect. the various methods come about. Including I would imagine a quantity of skepticism in many. In order for man...to flower, blossom , unity is necessary. Unity is mans challenge. Unity is not possible from a state of absolute unity. There is no passion then, for the quest unity with already in place perfect togetherness. Mans sorted idea's allow for purpose and meaning. Complaining about another's method in quest for fundamental unity is somewhat contrary to
what is required for all to be. Where sincere, everyone is right. Its important to look at perspective, patient perspective is a property of guidance and "can" allow for learning and sharing in some situations.
Jesus does have a church. Few attend. Man does not preside over it.
Drop the baggage of the organization and i'm with you brother. Oneness, godliness, discipline. The BE-Attitudes.
God = Go direct. No middlemen, no endless symbology. Just the unfiltered guidance through his Almighty Spirit.
Some unfiltered guidance as like:
Hebrews 10:25
Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another
Acts 17:2
As his custom was, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures,
Colossians 2:16
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
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Why didn't I listen to GoodToBeHome and his Church?! Ow! My gnashing teeth! Isn't there a dentist around here?!
Oneness, godliness, discipline. The BE-Attitudes. 
