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Old 05-03-2012, 03:49 PM
 
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Amen, many will fall away in this age. In the end, all will be subjected and restored. (Colossians 1) God bless and peace.
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:54 PM
 
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Amen, many will fall away in this age. In the end, all will be subjected and restored. (Colossians 1) God bless and peace.

Obviously you misinterpret Colossians 1. There are qualifiers (IF's) in this chapter as well.
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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All I can say is God knew what He was doing when He created the universe and man. And I am convinced that He will never quit working on anyone until they are who He intended them to be.

Only someone who already believes in God is going to fear 'Hell' and worry about their afterlife. But perhaps our Father will use these kind of appeals to touch and open someone's spiritual eyes. Who can say?

Peace.
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:49 PM
 
Location: New England
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All I can say is God knew what He was doing when He created the universe and man. And I am convinced that He will never quit working on anyone until they are who He intended them to be.

Only someone who already believes in God is going to fear 'Hell' and worry about their afterlife. But perhaps our Father will use these kind of appeals to touch and open someone's spiritual eyes. Who can say?

Peace.
Yes.

I am convinced of that too. He will keep on shining His Light upon all until all have looked upon him who they have pierced.
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:37 PM
 
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these stories have really become a slavery for people who have become so attached to them.

its insanity
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Old 05-03-2012, 07:39 PM
 
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JN 5:24 Anyone who hears my word and has faith in the Lord who sent me possesses eternal life, he does not come under condemnation but has passed from death to life.
A day is coming and truly has come when the dead will hear the voice of the son of God and those who have heard it shall live.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:18 AM
 
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The OP is rather humorous. An Arminian no less quoting the writings of a staunch Calivinist, Arthur Pink...lol at all of this:

The Wrath of God

Can you at least give credit to where you're getting this stuff? Arthur Pink died many years ago. It's difficult to reply to him...lol. Pink is simply playing both sides of the fence here. He hasn't really given any scriptures that present the universal reconciliation side of the coin that God has already accomplished in Christ:

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

You do realize, I hope, that there were no chances regarding salvation to begin with, right? Salvation is not a matter of human choice and will, but of God, who does the saving:

Jon 2:9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.

May I offer you another book to read by Pink? It will debunk your ideas concerning free will:

Sovereignty of God - Christian Classics Ethereal Library
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:00 PM
 
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The OP is rather humorous. An Arminian no less quoting the writings of a staunch Calivinist, Arthur Pink...lol at all of this:

The Wrath of God

Can you at least give credit to where you're getting this stuff? Arthur Pink died many years ago. It's difficult to reply to him...lol. Pink is simply playing both sides of the fence here. He hasn't really given any scriptures that present the universal reconciliation side of the coin that God has already accomplished in Christ:

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

You do realize, I hope, that there were no chances regarding salvation to begin with, right? Salvation is not a matter of human choice and will, but of God, who does the saving:

Jon 2:9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.

May I offer you another book to read by Pink? It will debunk your ideas concerning free will:

Sovereignty of God - Christian Classics Ethereal Library
Of course salvation is of Jesus Christ. Who is saying otherwise? No one else died for our sins. However, one is only saved if they believe in this gospel - good news of Jesus' death and resurrection. This is certainly human choice.

1 Corinthians 15
1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importancea: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to Peter,b and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:18 PM
 
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Amen

The truth of matter is all most of us have is a belief, and trust that belief to be a ticket to heaven. The just Live by Faith and are led by the anointing within them,faith is not saying "I believe in Jesus and the bible".

We should know that all we have is a belief,when all that comes out of our mouth is, sin,death,judgement,punishment,hell,condemnation and wrath.
Indeed. And I can say in all truth that I am not terrified of God or his wrath. If God needs to chastise me, He will certainly do so. But I don't believe in a Terrorist-child type of relationship with anyone. There very well may be people who are terrified of God, and I think the reason they are terrified is because the light of Christ has not yet translated them from the kingdom of darkness into the Kingdom of light. Otherwise, they would not be terrified and always preaching terror and dread to others. The thing I fear most is bringing shame upon myself and upon the name and reputation of God. In other words, there are certain things I avoid because they send up a red flag that says to my heart "that is the way that leads to death and shame -- do not go that way". However, it is not my job to tell others where they stand. They must have their own relationship with God -- I can only stand or fall for myself. And whether I stand or fall, Jesus is still Lord and Savior.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:56 PM
 
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All I know is, God is the same today, yesterday, and tomorrow. If you don't have the fear of God within you, I feel for you. I would not want to be you. Especially living in today's world. People of today have forgotten God did not come to bring peace but a sword. He is still the God that flooded the world and rain down fire on Sodom & Gomorrah. He is the same today. I would not get comfortable if I were you.
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