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Old 09-08-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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In Bibical times pork had parisites that were not killed by the cooking tecnique of the times. It is because of this that it was forbiden and advised against in the bible.
Not everything in the Bible had to do with power and control. Most of it was actually "common sense" for THAT day and age.....
History will prove this out if you look beyond the present landscape of beliefs.
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Old 09-08-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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Not if...

1) They're allergic to it.
2) They don't like it.
3) Someone spits in it.
etc.,

We've been given liberty, not legalism.

Acts 10:1-16,

"At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. One day at about three in the afternoon he had a vision. He distinctly saw an angel of God, who came to him and said, ". . . Now send men to Joppa to bring back a man named Simon who is called Peter. . . ." . . . Cornelius called two of his servants and a devout soldier who was one of his attendants. He told them everything that had happened and sent them to Joppa. About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat." "Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean." The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean." This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven."
That is all well and good, however, why did you not include the verses that allude to Peter's epiffany of the meaning of the vision?...
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Old 09-08-2012, 03:32 PM
 
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Gal 5:4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

That's the end of that story!

So Sad!
Well, like I said, if you want to eat what the scavengers eat, go right ahead....
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Old 09-08-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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Someone else who thinks God is able to say what He means. Some on here think God is too stupid to know what He's talking about and want to correct him. They think they have somehow become Jews and have rejected the grace of Christ and are trying to work their way to Heaven. Of course unless they accept the truth they are doomed.
It is you who are attempting to correct HaShem...With little knowledge of the Scriptures that you possess...
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Old 09-08-2012, 03:36 PM
 
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Lol, the Hebrews 13:8 defense. Hasn't this been covered in another thread? (or was it earlier in this one)

This verse does not support your position at all - it's completely neutral to it. God has changed his dealings with man (and what he expects from man) on numerous occasions in the past (Genesis 9, anyone?), so it can hardly be a defense here.

CLEARLY Hebrews 13:8 is not talking about the rules and regulations that exist between God and a person at any moment in history - but rather his character and faithfulness.
LMAO...Like I said...Some people have very little knowledge regarding the Scriptures...
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Old 09-08-2012, 03:37 PM
 
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Well when you only have a hand full of verses that don't really deal with what you are trying to change the bible to mean you just repeat it over and over and hope you can deceive someone else to add to your ranks.
I see no logic or reason with what Snow says...
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Old 09-08-2012, 03:40 PM
 
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Not many Christ-like attitudes and responses in this thread at all. Here's my final input. Romans 14:1-23 explains that not everyone is mature enough in the faith to accept the fact that all foods are clean.

The Law of Liberty

1 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. 4 Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.
5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. 9 For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written:
As I live, says the Lord,
Every knee shall bow to Me,
And every tongue shall confess to God.”

12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. 13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.
The Law of Love

14 I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. 15 Yet if your brother is grieved because of your food, you are no longer walking in love. Do not destroy with your food the one for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let your good be spoken of as evil; 17 for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 For he who serves Christ in these things is acceptable to God and approved by men.
19 Therefore let us pursue the things which make for peace and the things by which one may edify another. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All things indeed are pure, but it is evil for the man who eats with offense. 21 It is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak. 22 Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. 23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.
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Old 09-08-2012, 05:11 PM
 
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Lol, the Hebrews 13:8 defense. Hasn't this been covered in another thread? (or was it earlier in this one)

This verse does not support your position at all - it's completely neutral to it. God has changed his dealings with man (and what he expects from man) on numerous occasions in the past (Genesis 9, anyone?), so it can hardly be a defense here.

CLEARLY Hebrews 13:8 is not talking about the rules and regulations that exist between God and a person at any moment in history - but rather his character and faithfulness.
LMAO...Like I said...Some people have very little knowledge regarding the Scriptures...
Good rebuttal.
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Old 09-08-2012, 06:18 PM
 
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Default How do you cook your Pork that God gave you for food

I prefer the Low and Slow method for most pork.
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Old 09-08-2012, 06:46 PM
 
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Default Should Christians eat BBQ Pork?

::Sigh:: These kinds of nitpicking questions give the impression that God is somehow interested in these worldly carnal issues. He is NOT. His concerns are entirely spiritual . . . NOT carnal or worldly. As plain&simple tried to point out . . . only what is done with sinful intent (he who thinks it unclean) . . . is sin. It is the state of your mind or consciousness that is of concern to God. As long as what you are doing is being done in "Love of God and each other" . . . it cannot be sin, period. Only unloving acts and attitudes are sinful. (The kind of love I am referring to here is agape love . . . not lust or any other lesser version that it is confused with.)
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