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Old 11-09-2013, 06:56 AM
 
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The elect are simply chosen by God's foreknowledge and grace before the world was ever created, not because of something special or good found in anyone.
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:56 AM
 
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So, you presume to teach me without realizing my knowledge base?...

Identify the elect.

I have asked, you refuse to answer.

I deal in fact, not presumptions.
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:56 AM
 
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I was responding to his analogy...Once your foundation is set you build on it...
Sorry there Richard.
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:58 AM
 
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and Jesus never called God HaShem ... which is why ?
"the OT which was a period of time not under grace but under law, the NT begins the period of Grace..."
So you by spelling G-D are putting yourself under the law, which as you know nobody is saved by observing the law but is under the curse.

It is how I choose to reference Him...It has nothing to do with Law, which Yeshua stated would not pass away until heaven and earth did...
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:05 AM
 
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I am going to point here, the last book, looking toward the future-

Revelation 12:17
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ (Yashuah).


A distinction is drawn here.

There are countless other examples, however, christians refuse to look backward, look forward.
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:07 AM
 
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"Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it" (Exodus 20:8-11




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Old 11-09-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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Sorry there Richard.

No problem...
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:27 AM
 
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"Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it" (Exodus 20:8-11

Remember that HaShabat was made for man, not man for HaShabat...
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:35 AM
 
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Remember that HaShabat was made for man, not man for HaShabat...

That's right, and you are commanded to observe and keep it holy.


Shabbat Shalom
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:36 AM
 
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It is how I choose to reference Him...It has nothing to do with Law, which Yeshua stated would not pass away until heaven and earth did...
Two points

(1)
Nothing to do with the law .... seriously? Who are you kidding?
google search the question:
why do people spell G-D
The multiple results have a common theme:
the traditional practice in Jewish law
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(2)
You purposefully left out the last part of what Jesus stated:
Matthew 5:18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
When did that happen ... " until everything is accomplished."
John 19:30
When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.”
With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
Jesus fulfilled all the law requirements (Matthew 5:17) , by your spelling G-D is claiming otherwise when he said in a loud voice

-------------------------- > "It is finished !! " <----------------------------------




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