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We learn from God's trusted Word that others will come preaching another Jesus, a different spirit, and another gospel.
See 1 Corinthians 15:1 for the true Jesus, spirit, and gospel.
This is the only true Jesus who is the way, truth and life.
See Galatians 1:6-9 and heed the warning for preaching of another Jesus or gospel.
It is NOT possibleto follow Christ's instructions to His disciples to "love God and each other" daily and repent when you don't . . . and NOT be following the true Jesus, the true Spirit and the true Gospel.
It is NOT possibleto follow Christ's instructions to His disciples to "love God and each other" daily and repent when you don't . . . and NOT be following the true Jesus, the true Spirit and the true Gospel.
Can you actually point out to me where Jesus said to "love God and each other daily and repent when you don't"?
Nobody is dodging anything. You seem to think that by simply following what you perceive to be Jesus' teachings, you are a Christian.
I think saved33 summed it up quite nicely why the identity of Jesus is important:
I didn't asl saved33. I asked you, Vizio. Here perhaps if I list them separately you will give me your pastor-level answers to them:
Why is that important to a Christian who follows Christ and His instructions to His disciples?_____________________
What conceivable difference would it make in their dedication to Christ and their discipleship? ___________________
Why would they have to have a correct understanding of who Jesus is? _____________________________________
How would that affect their Christianity and dedication to Him?_____________________________________________
How would YOU answer them to your flock, Vizio?
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Who do you classify as a Christian?
Some Christian sects will claim that other Christian sects are not "Christians."
What are the minimum requirements you feel are needed for one to be considered a Christian?
What are your opinions of sects outside of your own?
I define a Christian as a person who feels Jesus Christ was an important person of divine origin, who also strives to follow Christs teachings. Every thing else to me is just tradition and sect based doctrines.
Edit: Please be respectful to each other. May peace and love be with you all, Always.
I didn't read each post, so if I repeat what has been stated forgive me.
I don't think it is possible to say all Presbyterians or all Baptists are Christians, not because the respective denomination teaches incorrectly, but that those filling the pews may not be truly saved. Their are some denominations or churches that have developed doctrines or practices outside the biblical example, IMO. I don't know if they are strange fire to God or not.
I find it best to look at each claiming to be Christian on an individual level. Even that is dicey, for only one knows for sure and I'm not Him.
I find it best to look at each claiming to be Christian on an individual level. Even that is dicey, for only one knows for sure and I'm not Him.
True. As far as I'm concerned, if you're not going to have the final say, you might as well leave it up to God. He's the only one whose opinion really matters.
Nobody is dodging anything. You seem to think that by simply following what you perceive to be Jesus' teachings, you are a Christian.
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This is different from your own approach in what way??
What he said!!! I fully expect another dodge. You are not fooling anyone by these tactics, Vizio. Are they representative of how you fail to answer questions from your flock?
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Originally Posted by Vizio
Can you actually point out to me where Jesus said to "love God and each other daily and repent when you don't"?
You don't get to ask questions until you have answered some. Here I will repost them for you:
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
I didn't ask saved33. I asked you, Vizio. Here perhaps if I list them separately you will give me your pastor-level answers to them:
Why is that important to a Christian who follows Christ and His instructions to His disciples?_____________________
What conceivable difference would it make in their dedication to Christ and their discipleship? ___________________
Why would they have to have a correct understanding of who Jesus is? _____________________________________
How would that affect their Christianity and dedication to Him?_____________________________________________
I didn't read each post, so if I repeat what has been stated forgive me.
I don't think it is possible to say all Presbyterians or all Baptists are Christians, not because the respective denomination teaches incorrectly, but that those filling the pews may not be truly saved. Their are some denominations or churches that have developed doctrines or practices outside the biblical example, IMO. I don't know if they are strange fire to God or not.
I find it best to look at each claiming to be Christian on an individual level. Even that is dicey, for only one knows for sure and I'm not Him.
I wouldn't say that being Christian is equivalent to bring saved though. The former is a "brain" thing while the latter is a "heart" thing.
If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
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