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Old 03-06-2014, 09:42 PM
 
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Adam did not witness the serpent - or he would have blamed the serpent!

Why? God asked Adam....Notice Adam's response.
I gave you the verse that says that Adam was with Eve when she took of the forbidden fruit. Adam was WITH HER. Why do you think it was inspired to put down "WITH HER" in your Bible?

Gen_3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

You have to understand that Satan is a reference to Adam's disobedient nature. Adam's disobedient nature IS the Serpent. It is Adam here talking to Eve. This is why Eve is talking back to the Serpent and saying "WE":

Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
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Old 03-06-2014, 10:49 PM
 
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I gave you the verse that says that Adam was with Eve when she took of the forbidden fruit. Adam was WITH HER. Why do you think it was inspired to put down "WITH HER" in your Bible?

Gen_3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

You have to understand that Satan is a reference to Adam's disobedient nature. Adam's disobedient nature IS the Serpent. It is Adam here talking to Eve. This is why Eve is talking back to the Serpent and saying "WE":

Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
You have to understand: I don't believe your explanation!
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:55 AM
 
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You have to understand: I don't believe your explanation!
I understand there is disbelief before there is belief. I'm trying to help you to understand - and not stay in disbelief.
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Old 03-07-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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You have to understand: I don't believe your explanation!
Good for you..... God has exposed the lie and given discernment to this lie and the distortion of His truth !
There are some here who hold tightly to a certain false teaching and bc of this false teaching satan has hold of the heart and has deceived many things of God into such strange teachings to be His truth.
Therefore it is satan identifying himself to you, not Christ. It's kind of like when satan was whispering to Peter's heart and responding to Christ in the flesh, emotions and the Lord rebuked satan, rather then Peter to get behind Him.
Satan has to come forward always and the spirit has to indentify itself whenever the Lord Jesus is present.
Satan keeps his victims in bondage with these lies..... when one is deceived in one area the whole life understanding will be filled with distortion of God's truth.... it truly is sad bc it is satan one believes and hears, thinking it is God.

4 You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world.
5 They are from the world; therefore they speak as from the world, and the world listens to them.
1John 4:4-5

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My love be with you all in Christ Jesus. Amen.
1Corinthians 16:24

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Old 03-07-2014, 01:00 PM
 
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There have been an abundance of off topic posts that do not directly address the OP. June is re-posting the OP here in the hopes that responses will directly address the OP.



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Jesus said: (Concerning Satan) He was a murderer from the beginning. John 8:44

I would like to know (from those that possess knowledge). Where in the scriptures does it back this statement of Jesus up? (IN the mouth of two or three witness shall every word be established.)

Now I am not going to use Human reasoning, assumptions, presumptions conjecture;

Nothing is ever written in the bible just once. God always repeats himself again & again.

Who did Satan Murder?

I want the Word of God - not the thoughts of men. ANY IDEAS that are biblical ?





Thanks, all!
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Old 03-09-2014, 12:41 PM
 
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Jesus said: (Concerning Satan) He was a murderer from the beginning. John 8:44

I would like to know (from those that possess knowledge). Where in the scriptures does it back this statement of Jesus up? (IN the mouth of two or three witness shall every word be established.)

Now I am not going to use Human reasoning, assumptions, presumptions conjecture;

Nothing is ever written in the bible just once. God always repeats himself again & again.

Who did Satan Murder?

I want the Word of God - not the thoughts of men. ANY IDEAS that are biblical ?
Dear tuq,
Satan is Spirit. He can only act through the individual who bows to his control.
The beginning of Satan's murdering is in Gen 4:8, the murder of Able by Cain.
The witnesses of Yeshua in John 8:4, John in 1 John 3:12, and Jude in Jude 1:11, would simply be using Gen 4:8 as a source.
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Old 03-09-2014, 09:01 PM
 
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Jesus said: (Concerning Satan) He was a murderer from the beginning. John 8:44

I would like to know (from those that possess knowledge). Where in the scriptures does it back this statement of Jesus up? (IN the mouth of two or three witness shall every word be established.)

Now I am not going to use Human reasoning, assumptions, presumptions conjecture;

Nothing is ever written in the bible just once. God always repeats himself again & again.

Who did Satan Murder?

I want the Word of God - not the thoughts of men. ANY IDEAS that are biblical ?
I have a question: Who killed more people in the Bible, God or Satan?
And remember, revenge (murder) comes from that of a resentful or vindictive spirit!

Now, it's not about being impulsive, rather that of premeditation with intent to commit?

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