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Old 06-30-2014, 06:20 PM
 
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You have asked me the same question about Matthew 18 several times and I answered . . . yet you accuse me of being a liar:::Sigh:: So now I am a liar. Did you not read this post in answer to your question on Matthew 18????
You ignored my questions and asked me if I agreed with your interpretation yet? I answered with this post:


I tried to clarify the problem with your blind faith approach to scripture to no avail.
I have said what I mean mean multiple times . . . but since it is NOT what YOU mean you call me a liar or son of Satan and say I haven't answered. YOUR interpretation of the teaching is wrong, IMO. There is no agape love in your view and that makes it incompatible with God.

It is an answer if you actually bother to read it instead of making your knee-jerk dismissal. Of course if someone harms YOU it makes sense to go to him in private and find out what is going on. Why don't you stop just rejecting anything I write and actually read it and try to comprehend it . . . instead of blurting out your dogma. I realize that actually thinking and analyzing things is not the strong suit of fundamentalists. They prefer rote memorized dogmatic responses. But it is not beyond your abilities to do so if you have the will to actually understand God and Jesus.
So you refuse to answer whether you agree with Jesus. I guess that says just as much as any answer you would give. You are not of Christ, or you would obey His teaching, instead you lean on your own understanding and ride your blasphemy all the way down that broad road.

Love without truth is hypocrisy.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:22 PM
 
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Do they, or don't they?
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They argue that to tell a person living in unrepentant sin that he is a sinner is uncompassionate and unloving. <snip>

By the way, you never did respond to the question of how you're able to show compassion and love to people whom you've disassociated. Do those people really continue to seek out the companionship of those of you who've disassociated them? Or not?
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:23 PM
 
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Do you not learn? This passage was not saying to refrain from removing specks, but no to remove specks if you are guilty of the same. The whole chapter was speaking of hypocrisy. This proves nothing.
Do you not understand that Jesus is actually shutting down any form of fault finding in another. There is no one to change but yourself?. Forgive us our trespasses AS WE forgive those that trespass against us. You know all those you have broken fellowship with and treat like a pagan or tax collector, you are reaping the same.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:25 PM
 
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By the way, you never did respond to the question of how you're able to show compassion and love to people whom you've disassociated. Do those people really continue to seek out the companionship of those of you who've disassociated them? Or not?
I reach out to them and show them love if they will accept it. Which means I might give them a ride or bring them some food or invite them out for coffee. They may reject this, but because I love them, I keep trying and more importantly, praying for them.

If you have a problem with the teachings of Jesus, look to Him, not me. He taught it and I learned it. You are talking to the student not the teacher. Jesus is only as far away as a drop to your knees
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:28 PM
 
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Do you not understand that Jesus is actually shutting down any form of fault finding in another.
Jesus said:
"You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."
Did you miss that part? Wow, how blind are you exactly? This isn't hieroglyphics here it's plain English.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:29 PM
 
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I reach out to them and show them love if they will accept it. Which means I might give them a ride or bring them some food or invite them out for coffee. They may reject this, but because I love them, I keep trying and more importantly, praying for them.

If you have a problem with the teachings of Jesus, look to Him, not me. He taught it and I learned it. You are talking to the student not the teacher. Jesus is only as far away as a drop to your knees
Did you know Forgiveness is very much part of love ?. Why don't you show them the same mercy you have been shown ?.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:31 PM
 
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I reach out to them and show them love if they will accept it. Which means I might give them a ride or bring them some food or invite them out for coffee. They may reject this, but because I love them, I keep trying and more importantly, praying for them.

If you have a problem with the teachings of Jesus, look to Him, not me. He taught it and I learned it. You are talking to the student not the teacher. Jesus is only as far away as a drop to your knees
They MAY reject your offers for food, coffee or a ride? Or they do reject them? If they do, then the comment you made to Mystic about how you still connect with these people wasn't true, right?
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:31 PM
 
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Did you know Forgiveness is very much part of love ?. Why don't you show them the same mercy you have been shown ?.
Um... I can forgive them, but unless they repent, there will be no forgiveness from God and they will remain separated from the body of Christ.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:33 PM
 
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Um... I can forgive them, but unless they repent, there will be no forgiveness from God and they will remain separated from the body of Christ.
Well, separated from you lot, at any rate. And only because you decided they had to be, not because God did.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:35 PM
 
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You have asked me the same question about Matthew 18 several times and I answered . . . yet you accuse me of being a liar:::Sigh:: So now I am a liar. Did you not read this post in answer to your question on Matthew 18????
You ignored my questions and asked me if I agreed with your interpretation yet? I answered with this post:

I tried to clarify the problem with your blind faith approach to scripture to no avail.
I have said what I mean mean multiple times . . . but since it is NOT what YOU mean you call me a liar or son of Satan and say I haven't answered. YOUR interpretation of the teaching is wrong, IMO. There is no agape love in your view and that makes it incompatible with God.

It is an answer if you actually bother to read it instead of making your knee-jerk dismissal. Of course if someone harms YOU it makes sense to go to him in private and find out what is going on. Why don't you stop just rejecting anything I write and actually read it and try to comprehend it . . . instead of blurting out your dogma. I realize that actually thinking and analyzing things is not the strong suit of fundamentalists. They prefer rote memorized dogmatic responses. But it is not beyond your abilities to do so if you have the will to actually understand God and Jesus.
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So you refuse to answer whether you agree with Jesus. I guess that says just as much as any answer you would give. You are not of Christ, or you would obey His teaching, instead you lean on your own understanding and ride your blasphemy all the way down that broad road.
Love without truth is hypocrisy.
I have answered you multiple times and it is now becoming tiresome! Is this a joke or are you just trolling? Of course I agree with Jesus. I just do NOT AGREE with YOU!!!! I do NOT want this thread closed because it exposes the anti-Christ (anti-love) majority sentiment within the Christian movement in these "latter days" as prophesied . . . and lurkers especially will benefit from that. That is the only reason I do not report you for trolling or disparaging me by calling me a liar or son of Satan or not of Christ or a blasphemer or misrepresenting my responses when YOU have been shown to be lying about whether or not I have responded to your questions. NONE of your actions are the "fruit" of a Christian and your lack of agape love is troubling, brother. I genuinely worry about your eternal soul.
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