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I agree with Alice. The Jews were interested in their preception of the law not what was right or true. They did not like Jesus and he was claiming to be the Son of God, to them that meant he was claiming to be God in their eyes, when I say that I am the daughter of God does that make me God?
Were the pharisees/Jews perceptions right all the time? No.
When they said you claim to be God - he didn't say that is right I am God in the flesh. He said I am the Son of God. The Son of God has a different meaning than I am God the Son.
So by saying 'I say I'm God's Son' you don't think he was saying he was God's Son?
Seriously what is the problem here, We believe Jesus is the Son of God but the argument here is the Jews accused Him of blasphemy. You are not an ancient Jew therefore you read the boom from a present day standpoint. The Jews back then were very, very sensitive with anything dealing with their God.
They accused him of blasphemy because in their words, he a mere man claimed to be God.
Seriously what is the problem here, We believe Jesus is the Son of God but the argument here is the Jews accused Him of blasphemy. You are not an ancient Jew therefore you read the boom from a present day standpoint. The Jews back then were very, very sensitive with anything dealing with their God.
They accused him of blasphemy because in their words, he a mere man claimed to be God.
Key phrasing: in THEIR words. Is Jesus godlike? sure. Is he a divine being? Absolutely. Is he Almighty God? No. That's my point.
I agree with Alice. The Jews were interested in their preception of the law not what was right or true. They did not like Jesus and he was claiming to be the Son of God, to them that meant he was claiming to be God in their eyes, when I say that I am the daughter of God does that make me God?
Were the pharisees/Jews perceptions right all the time? No.
When they said you claim to be God - he didn't say that is right I am God in the flesh. He said I am the Son of God. The Son of God has a different meaning than I am God the Son.
You need scripture to support your defense of your arguments
and some how your perception is right? and how is claiming to be the Son of God, claiming to be God the Father????? Do you have any idea what is was like to live in those times, people dare not even utter God's name for fear they may pronounce it wrong and fall down dead. The Jews were very sensitive and Jesus who was also a Jew know EXACTLY what He was doing. especially when
(John 8:58)
58 “I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.
No correction, no claiming to be the Son of God just, "I am" a reference that only God uttered and no Jew dare not. Jesus knew what he was doing uttering "I am". He once again was accused of blasphemy and they picked up stones.
No correction, no claiming to be the Son of God just, "I am" a reference that only God uttered and no Jew dare not. Jesus knew what he was doing uttering "I am". He once again was accused of blasphemy and they picked up stones.
Some translations read, 'before Abraham, I have been'. It wasnt a name, he was stating. It was just factual information about his existence. The KJ tried to make it more than it was by inserting the capital letters.
Some translations read, 'before Abraham, I have been'. It wasnt a name, he was stating. It was just factual information about his existence. The KJ tried to make it more than it was by inserting the capital letters.
The Textus Receptus of King James' day is what his bible was based on. Many bibles today use the King James as their main source. Either way, in the original greek, the words were not capitalized.
The Textus Receptus of King James' day is what his bible was based on. Many bibles today use the King James as their main source. Either way, in the original greek, the words were not capitalized.
But not every bible reads that way. Therefore, don't you have to ask yourself...was he really saying it as a 'title' or was he just saying 'I am'? Certainly you don't feel God holds the monopoly on the words themselves.
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