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John talks about God's perfect love that caused Him to send Jesus to die for us and it is that love that casts out the fear of judgement. The reason we should not fear God's judgement is because we are sanctified by Christ. Read all of Chapter 4 and you will see the love of God that John is talking about.
A few verses later John writes,
Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and whoever loves the Father loves the child born of Him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and observe His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome.
If you love God, you will keep His commandments. This does not mean we should not fear God because He should be feared in a healthy positive way baca use of His power and majesty. There is not a single man who could look upon God without falling to their knees in fear and worship.
God is love. God is just. God is fair. God is true. God never changes.
I love God with all my heart and He loves me. The fact that you constantly question this is simply beyond me. Like I said, God has many attributes and love is only one of them.
This is very poor by a learnt fundamentalists standard. Is this your own concoction or something you have just read and regurgitated?.
So perfect loves cast out fear of judgement but it does not cast out fear of God?, which obviously to you is a good thing to have. Love cannot operate out of fear, it expresses itself by faith in the love that God has shed abroad in our hearts.
This is very poor by a learnt fundamentalists standard. Is this your own concoction or something you have just read and regurgitated?.
So perfect loves cast out fear of judgement but it does not cast out fear of God?, which obviously to you is a good thing to have. Love cannot operate out of fear, it expresses itself by faith in the love that God has shed abroad in our hearts.
You know better than I what a fundamentalist is thinking, pcamps. I find their reasoning (if it can be called that) completely incomprehensible. One of the ways I can know if a dog owner is a good owner or a brute is their dog's fear of my "might and power" as reflected in my size. Any dog that expresses fear at the presence of people has been abused and mistreated by their human owner, period. Any human that expresses fear of the "might and power" of God (whether or not they CALL it reverence) is afraid of the possible exercise of that power and cannot truly love God. Without such fear the love is unbridled and overpowering. It draws us to God without question or concern or fear of anything at all.
You know better than I what a fundamentalist is thinking, pcamps. I find their reasoning (if it can be called that) completely incomprehensible. One of the ways I can know if a dog owner is a good owner or a brute is their dog's fear of my "might and power" as reflected in my size. Any dog that expresses fear at the presence of people has been abused and mistreated by their human owner, period. Any human that expresses fear of the "might and power" of God (whether or not they CALL it reverence) is afraid of the possible exercise of that power and cannot truly love God. Without such fear the love is unbridled and overpowering. It draws us to God without question or concern or fear of anything at all.
Not sure i know better but i used to feed of the same bread they ate. Talking about dogs, not that i don't mind enjoying our beautiful patio, my 2 dogs are really put out( me too ) by family being here with 2 other dogs and have chosen to stay out on the patio with their Daddy.
This is very poor by a learnt fundamentalists standard. Is this your own concoction or something you have just read and regurgitated?.
So perfect loves cast out fear of judgement but it does not cast out fear of God?, which obviously to you is a good thing to have. Love cannot operate out of fear, it expresses itself by faith in the love that God has shed abroad in our hearts.
As I said, I have over 300 places in Scripture, including God Himself and Christ backing up what I am saying. You have not refuted even one of these.
You can call me a 'fundamentalist' or whatever derogatory name you desire, and if it means that I stand firm and unashamed on the unchanging Word of God, then I wear it as a badge of honor in the name of Christ.
I know it's cliche but it's truth: God said it, I believe it and that settles it.
Anything that purports to be truth but runs contrary to Gods Word is not from God. Period. Very simple.
Actually, you are the only one who has said it means both Whatever suits the mood......
I don't and never will. So many different translations is a fundamentalists dream, even when your conscience tells you otherwise if there's a mistranslation that supports that which you know even your conscience denies you will go against your conscience.
I don't and never will. So many different translations is a fundamentalists dream, even when your conscience tells you otherwise if there's a mistranslation that supports that which you know even your conscience denies you will go against your conscience.
Jesus read and spoke Hebrew, so do I. Jesus read the Old Testament and believed it to be the Word of God and so do I. Both Jesus and I have read the same words without change. The same words Christ taught in the synagogues is what I read today. No conscience required.
I don't and never will. So many different translations is a fundamentalists dream, even when your conscience tells you otherwise if there's a mistranslation that supports that which you know even your conscience denies you will go against your conscience.
I posted both of your statements for all to see. Can you quote me saying what you claim I have said? Show me the quote where I said we should be afraid of God? Either that, or just admit that you made up yet another false claim.
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