Did Jesus Make A Bad Prophetic Call According to Deuteronomy?

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by chuckmann

But what if Jesus was not the Son of God, but a son of God? As was David?
I do NOT believe that Jesus ever claimed to be THE son of God, as we modern folk understand the terms father and son.
See, I believe God speaks to all of us all the time. The question is, do we ever listen?
Well. I believe Jesus listened, and understood the message of love, and preached it. And that message was revolutionary!!! Witness the world today, the result of the Christian message.
The problem with contemporary Christianity is that it is based upon 1500 years of misguided theology. Time for modern Christians to evolve, to re-evaluate the theology, based upon the teaching of Jesus and the examples of the 1st century practices.
LISTEN to God when He speaks. Because He tells us the direction we need to walk.

Originally Posted by pcamps

Well said chuckmann.

Amen, brothers. What does the term "First-born" mean? It certainly does NOT mean the ONLY-born. We are to be "born again" as Spirit upon our death . . .as Christ was. This life is the baptism we must follow Christ in to our death . . . overcome and endure in Christ.

[thrillobyte]

Originally Posted by Peacegiver

"It is written in the prophets everyone shall be taught by God. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him and I will raise him up on the last day."

Forgive me, Peacegiver, but can't you see the bald-faced contradiction just within those two statement alone?

"Everyone [all people] shall be taught by God", taught, presumably, that Jesus is God made flesh who died for our sins." That's an absolute; it leaves absolutely no room for the contrary: that some, not all, shall be taught by God.

But then the next statement says, "No one can come to me except the Father draws him..." Just that statement alone assumes God will draw some and not others. You can link that with Jesus' proclamation that few find the road to eternal life; most find the road to destruction.

Now how on earth can all men be taught of God and yet most of them go to destruction???

Does the contradiction mean that God's teaching is so impotent and so ineffective that most men choose to disregard it and go with the devil's teaching? Then God is a pretty poor teacher. And the devil is more powerful than God because he has the power to draw more men away from God than God has the power to draw them to Jesus.

[hd4me]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Isn't it funny how many ignore what the scriptures tells us about this, for their on opinion.

Never ceases to amaze me.

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by hd4me

Never ceases to amaze me.

Me, neither!