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Old 11-10-2018, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Yes some have been if they were to tend to their masters quarters.
They weren't "born" that way by having their testicles cut off. Jews are adamantly opposed to such activities.

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R. D. Patterson contended that because of Deut 23:1, it “can be doubted that Israel would have inaugurated the employment of eunuchs.”
Patterson, R. D. “סריס (sārîs), official, eunuch.” In R. Laird Harris, ed., Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, 2, pp. 634–635. Chicago: Moody Press, 1980.

Given that the Jews do not participate in such atrocities (except in your mind), Jesus would hardly have been talking about children castrated AT birth when He stated eunuchs were BORN that way. And He couldn't have been talking about those born with penis and/or testicles as only about one in five million males is so born. Judaea only had about 500,000 people in all.

 
Old 11-10-2018, 07:25 PM
 
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It must be difficult for you, if you cannot have a single thought of your own.

Php_2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
 
Old 11-10-2018, 07:27 PM
 
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They weren't "born" that way by having their testicles cut off. Jews are adamantly opposed to such activities.

Patterson, R. D. “סריס (sārîs), official, eunuch.” In R. Laird Harris, ed., Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, 2, pp. 634–635. Chicago: Moody Press, 1980.

Given that the Jews do not participate in such atrocities (except in your mind), Jesus would hardly have been talking about children castrated AT birth when He stated eunuchs were BORN that way. And He couldn't have been talking about those born with penis and/or testicles as only about one in five million males is so born. Judaea only had about 500,000 people in all.

An enunuch is anyone that abstains from sexual relations. It could be by castration or by self control.
 
Old 11-10-2018, 07:31 PM
 
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1Ki 14:24 And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.



1Ki_15:12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.


1Ki_22:46 And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.


2Ki_23:7 And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.


Deu 23:17 There shall be no ***** of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
 
Old 11-10-2018, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Townsville
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1Ki 14:24 And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.



1Ki_15:12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.


1Ki_22:46 And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.


2Ki_23:7 And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.


Deu 23:17 There shall be no ***** of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Hoo boy ...if you had not shown biblical ignorance previously, you certainly have now, HeWillCome2040! The term 'sodomite' DOES NOT mean 'homosexual'!! It's referring to temple prostitutes that were affiliated with the worship of pagan idols. Even if you're in ignorance of temple prostitution 'back in the day' you can surely see by the above texts that there is a connection between 'sodomite' and 'idolatry' and 'w h o r e'. I can't believe how you folks STILL persist in associating homosexuality (as per the actual definition of the word) with temple prostitution, especially when dealing with others who know better.

You either need to recant your previous and persistent 'homosexuality is a sin' comments, HWC, OR otherwise present scriptures that actually back up what you say! "I" say that there are NO scriptures that state 'homosexuality is a sin'. "I" also say that ALL references to same-gender sex mentioned in the Bible refer to pagan idol worship and temple prostitution.

Tell me, how come you and your 'comrades' are so coy when it comes to refuting this?
 
Old 11-10-2018, 08:39 PM
 
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Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
 
Old 11-10-2018, 08:42 PM
 
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Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
 
Old 11-10-2018, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It must be difficult for you, if you cannot have a single thought of your own.
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Php_2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
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Originally Posted by HeWillCome2040 View Post
1Ki 14:24 And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.


1Ki_15:12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.


1Ki_22:46 And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.


2Ki_23:7 And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.


Deu 23:17 There shall be no ***** of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
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Hoo boy ...if you had not shown biblical ignorance previously, you certainly have now, HeWillCome2040! The term 'sodomite' DOES NOT mean 'homosexual'!! It's referring to temple prostitutes that were affiliated with the worship of pagan idols. Even if you're in ignorance of temple prostitution 'back in the day' you can surely see by the above texts that there is a connection between 'sodomite' and 'idolatry' and 'w h o r e'. I can't believe how you folks STILL persist in associating homosexuality (as per the actual definition of the word) with temple prostitution, especially when dealing with others who know better.

You either need to recant your previous and persistent 'homosexuality is a sin' comments, HWC, OR otherwise present scriptures that actually back up what you say! "I" say that there are NO scriptures that state 'homosexuality is a sin'. "I" also say that ALL references to same-gender sex mentioned in the Bible refer to pagan idol worship and temple prostitution.

Tell me, how come you and your 'comrades' are so coy when it comes to refuting this?
Jesus had joined other ancient authorities, and according to His own thoughts the sins of the Sodomites were the abuse of strangers, neglecting the poor and needy, and that of stigmatizing or stereotyping outsiders. It had nothing to do with anal sex.

He will be judged more harshly than the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, as he does not have the mind of Christ Jesus. And emphasizing the word sodomite was ridiculous. If the sin of sodomy is the "practice of non-procreative sex," then every sexually active human being is a SODOMITE in his eyes. LMAO

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Old 11-10-2018, 08:49 PM
 
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Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
 
Old 11-10-2018, 08:51 PM
 
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Jesus had joined other ancient authorities in viewing the sins of the Sodomites as the abuse of strangers, neglecting the poor and needy, and the stigmatizing or stereotyping of outsiders. It had nothing to do with anal sex. He will be judged more harshly than the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, as he does not have the mind of Christ Jesus. And emphasizing the word sodomite was ridiculous.
Really, well there certainly was a whole lot of other towns and civilizations that were abusive to strangers. Why didn't God wipe them out? Makes no sense why God would be enraged against this one city while every other pagan nation was being inhospitable. Of course, you have to ignore all the other verses that mention sexual sin as the root sin to prop up your false position.
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