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If God said it was error in itself, I would agree, but the point you need to address is just what the demonstrable harm IS.
And if there is demonstrable harm, there's a second step - why government needs to prohibit it.
Eating too much food and the wrong kind of food causes demonstrable harm, but we don't have personal government inspectors monitoring our food intake. Nor should we.
Why does homosexuality anger conservative Christians more than other sins?
Perhaps, it is because murderers are not fighting for the right to kill people, perhaps because thieves are not fighting for the right to steal things.
Perhaps, it is because murderers are not fighting for the right to kill people, perhaps because thieves are not fighting for the right to steal things.
So fighting for the right to be treated the same as other people is in any way comparable? That is just miserable drivel.
Perhaps, it is because murderers are not fighting for the right to kill people, perhaps because thieves are not fighting for the right to steal things.
Perhaps, it is because murderers are not fighting for the right to kill people, perhaps because thieves are not fighting for the right to steal things.
Comparing gays to murderers and thieves isn't very nice. The attempt to lump gays in with evil-doers is mean-spirited and just flat-out nasty*.
I suggest a new user name.
*Never mind idiotic and a worn-out ploy used by fundies to demonize the LGBTQ community.
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God tosses a volley of adjectives about homosexuality ...
God tosses a volley of adjectives about homosexuality? Well, I have a King James Bible in my possession and I can't even find the word "homosexual" in its pages, let alone finding where God tosses a volley of adjectives about it. You DO know that the terms "homosexual/homosexuality" are only ever used in the corrupted versions of the Bible post-1946, do you not? You DO know that these modern terms replaced original terms in Greek that DID NOT refer to "homosexual/homosexuality", do you not? Evidently you don't. Moreover, do you know what those terms even mean? Well, a "homosexual" is one who is sexually attracted to others of the same gender just the same as a "heterosexual" is one who is sexually attracted to others of the opposite gender. Please note that there is no 'right or wrong' attached to one's sexual orientation. Sure, a homosexual person can 'sin' just as a heterosexual can 'sin'. However, the terms themselves are "sin-neutral" if I might use that term. **
An interesting thing occurred when the term "homosexual" was erroneously added to the Bible by modern authors. The term lost its ORIGINAL meaning, i.e. one's sexual attraction to others of the same gender, and became equated to ...SIN! SO, whenever homosexuality is preached from the pulpit it isn't preached as a sexual orientation but rather as 'A RACE OF PERVERTED PEOPLE WHO PRACTICE WHAT GOD CALLS AN ABOMINATION!' And, the 'sheeple' soak it up like the sponges that many of them are . . .
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...and the attitude of those in bondage. Wickedness, Evil, greedy, depraved, futile, their foolish hearts darkened! Romans 1:18-32 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against the godlessness and wickedness of people. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for degrading their bodies with another. God gave them over to shameful lusts. Women exchanging natural sexual acts to unnatural. Men abandoned natural sex with women. Men committed shameful acts with other men and received their DUE PENALTY for their error.
Romans 1:18-32, eh? Are you sure you know what Romans 1:18-32 is talking about? Well, correct me if you think that I'm wrong but Paul (WHO IS NOT GOD!!) is referring to those who once knew God but have now turned to the worship of created 'beings' made in the images of mortal man, animals, birds and reptiles. They are now participating in pagan worship practices which includes sexual fertility rites and shrine temple prostitutes. Remember what was going on with Moses' followers while he was away picking up the Ten Commandments from God on Mount Sinai? They built a golden calf and began to worship it and perform orgies as was (apparently) part of the worship practice of idols.
Are you familiar with the worship practices associated with idolatry? No? Then you need to clue yourself in as long as you're involving yourself in this topic. No point coming at this from a 'half-assed' perspective. For starters click "Cybele" on your keyboard. Cybele was a prominent manufactured worship character in Paul's day. Do a little research on 'idolatry' and you will get an idea as to what Paul appears to be talking about in Romans 1. Paul was NOT referring to homosexuality as WE today refer to that term. Incidentally, heterosexual sexual rituals were also performed within idolatry practices so, likewise, Paul is NOT referring to heterosexuality as WE today refer to that claim. Please don't think that others on this site are slouches when it comes to Bible savvy.
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So it isn't about hate it isn't about conservative people or so-called christians who are sinners.
Would you rather the terms "scriptural inept" or/and "religious brainwashing" that drives Christians to say and do things that are asinine as well as cruel? The result is still the same.
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Stop Referring to man and hear God.!! We are nothing to you!!!
STOP putting us at risk of injury and death via the collateral damage God is going to whip on our nation!!
God is a consuming fire and We straight brothas of anotha don't want your crap!!!
Hmmm ...nice rant. Now, would you care to address what I've stated above?
** "sin" ...such a stupid word!
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He's complained about having to bury the bodies after God expresses his displeasure over gays using the rainbow and wipes out everyone but the Christian preppers. One would think the smell alone would send them back into their basements.
Whether or not God is also going to wipe out things like turkey buzzards and carrion beetles remains unclear. They better hope not.
The issue is that no one is trying to say that the others sins that you speak of are not a sin. They are not parading the streets trying to convince others that the sin they commit without guilt or shame is OK. As a Christian you are supposed to try with all your willpower to avoid sin which from everything I have seen, homosexuals don't especially when they "marry" unless they are living in a celibate state. That is the major issue between the sin of homosexuality and other sins, the acknowledgement that it is a sin and the attempt to sin no more.
It really is very easy to understand. If you aren't a Christian or of any of the other religions, of which there are several, then the laws do not apply to you so I don't see why one cares in that situation.
Feel free to show us where in the Old Testament God calls lesbians an abomination. If you can't, you've completely disproved your argument, since gay women are included in "homosexuality".
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