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I'm not gay but I've been around enough to believe that it is something that happens naturally. If there is a God (I believe there is) and he created us the way we are, then it can't be wrong to be what we were created, can it?
Thank you for your tolerance, but I do not claim to have the intellect that allows me to doubt God.
You mean to doubt the bible. God and the bible are not one and the same, of course. I understand that, for you, the bible infallibly speaks for God (even whatever english translation(s) that you probably are relying on), but just because you believe that, doesn't mean everyone else does...
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I don't have a need to explain it. I take God at HiS Word. He owes me no explanation. I do believe it iS wrong and unnatural. I once lived a lifestyle of selfish and sinful behavior. Sin is sin- the point being that if I am unrepentent and my sins are not covered by Christs shed blood- I will be judged for them. People don't seem to realize that God owes us no explanations. We will all stand before Him, and we'll be held accountable, not vice-versa.
So, based on your personal belief in an infallible bible, no, you don't need to explain it to yourself. You have chosen to accept it unquestionably as the thing which can convict you that some of your behaviors are sinful. And if you are homosexual and are convicted that it is sinful, then you'll have to come to terms with that for yourself. But when you choose to tell OTHERS that something about them is sinful based on your personal belief that the bible is infallible, then it becomes problematic.
Interestingly, your own bible doesn't tell you that it is your job, or even the bible's job, to convict people of sin. That is, reportedly, the job of the "Holy Spirit". Presumably, then, the Spirit wouldn't convict people of something in their life being a sin unless it is causing them to be out of harmony with the Spirit, the fruit of which is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, etc.
ETA: So my question for you, and those who believe as you do, is rather than tell everyone that homosexuality is a sin when you are unable to show how it is sinful, why not trust the Spirit to do the Spirit's job?
No, it's not simple unless one is a simpleton and cannot think beyond black and white. This is the trouble with fundamentalists. They think they know everything when they hardly know anything much at all.
That is a great article and as a same sex attracted person that is Christian it is very bold and to the point.
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My hope is that the vast majority of the people professing Christ while embracing their homosexual feelings will repent and begin waging war against their sin. But I believe that this will only happen if the Church will engage with these people as God has told us to in his Word. We shouldn’t affirm them and we shouldn’t condemn them, but we absolutely can’t sit by silently as they let their sin swallow them up. We’ve got to love these people with deep gospel love by telling them the truth: Jesus demands their repentance. Jesus is worthy of their repentance. And fellowship with Jesus — which requires walking in repentance — is where joy is found.
We've got to love these people by telling them...
"These people"? See, why single out homosexuals and say that you've got to tell them anything. If a Christian offered to share their experience with people in general, of how being set free from their OWN sins has impacted their life in a positive way and there was evidence that it really was positive, maybe some people would actually be interested in hearing what they have to say.
If your message has any merit at all, you'll be able to demonstrate that from your own life and at no point will it be necessary for you to play God or the Holy Spirit.
Pope Francis has made it clear that it is OK to be a Gay Christian. He once stated the following when asked by a reporter:
"When I meet a gay person, I have to distinguish between their being gay and being part of a lobby. If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn’t be marginalized. The tendency [to homosexuality] is not the problem…they’re our brothers." - Pope Francis
Its really that simple, who are we to judge? There is NOTHING WRONG with being Gay and being a Christian. As stated by Pope Francis, if the person accepts the Lord Jesus Christ and follows/understands the teachings of the church (marriage is only between a man and a woman, etc.) then there is nothing wrong with this. In fact, I know several Gay Christians who perfectly comprehend/follow the teachings of the church and are great Christians.
Calling one self a gay christian and not being repentant on homosexual acts and seeing nothing sinful on them is certainly not a Christian way of life.
As Christians we are to repent on all of our sins including homosexual ones.
It is NOT "certain" and the closed minded attitude of most "Christians" that it is panders to bigotry.
I don't have a need to explain it. I take God at HiS Word. He owes me no explanation. I do believe it iS wrong and unnatural. I once lived a lifestyle of selfish and sinful behavior. Sin is sin- the point being that if I am unrepentent and my sins are not covered by Christs shed blood- I will be judged for them. People don't seem to realize that God owes us no explanations. We will all stand before Him, and we'll be held accountable, not vice-versa.
And the point is that what you call God's Word does NOT say that, it is the misinterpretation of centuries that needs to be corrected, but you can't look at that because YOU are prejudiced against gays.
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I have no intention of not tolerating you.
