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Old 07-04-2016, 10:20 AM
 
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He established things the way He wants them, and just as His Spirit put in place the sun, moon and stars and they follow established laws He set up, so too did He establish principles and laws that cannot be circumvented by the whims or beliefs of man.
According to your beliefs.

I am not bound by your beliefs. Neither is anyone else. Like everyone else, God gave me a brain and the ability to make my own decisions. Those decisions include what I believe. I believe I am a much-loved child of God. I believe pork sausage is delicious. I believe that if you don't want to eat it.... you get to abstain for whatever reason you want. Meanwhile.......that leaves more for the rest of us.

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Old 07-04-2016, 10:34 AM
 
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You know, in fact, the "I" part of the equation, has no beliefs left, having traded "my" beliefs for what He said and what His Spirit reveals and allows me to experience, decades ago. THAT, is true freedom. There is nothing of this world or the carnal beastly minds of men that is worth hanging onto a dead man for. Peace
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Old 07-04-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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According to your beliefs.

I am not bound by your beliefs. Neither is anyone else. Like everyone else, God gave me a brain and the ability to make my own decisions. Those decisions include what I believe. I believe I am a much-loved child of God. I believe pork sausage is delicious. I believe that if you don't want to eat it.... you get to abstain for whatever reason you want. Meanwhile.......that leaves more for the rest of us.


It was never about eating pork, eating the flesh of swine in your garden means you have great disrespect for the laws of God, like Prodigal that began herding swine, it is just showing his disdain for the law, and he becomes as a dead man because he left the word of his father and showed great disrespect for the word of the father. In the end, he begs to return as just a slave, but his father welcomes him back, his returning with respect to the Torah. Jesus said,'' I never knew you lawbreakers.'' Because they didn't know or respect the law.


The lawless one ruled them.
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Old 07-04-2016, 11:03 AM
 
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You know, in fact, the "I" part of the equation, has no beliefs left, having traded "my" beliefs for what He said and what His Spirit reveals and allows me to experience, decades ago.
His Spirit revealing things to you does not mean everyone else is bound to what has been revealed to you. MANY people currently walking this Earth believe they have had revelations from His Spirit. A good chunk of those enjoy pork products.

Lol...the Mennonites might be surprised to learn the Messianics think they have "disrespect for the laws of God".... but I'm sure they'll cope.

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Old 07-04-2016, 02:12 PM
 
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His Spirit revealing things to you does not mean everyone else is bound to what has been revealed to you. MANY people currently walking this Earth believe they have had revelations from His Spirit. A good chunk of those enjoy pork products.

Lol...the Mennonites might be surprised to learn the Messianics think they have "disrespect for the laws of God".... but I'm sure they'll cope.

Have you ever eaten something that was just so tasty and delicious you just had to share it with someone you cared about? Well, that is as simple as the motive of my heart is. Taste of the Lord and see that He is good. Peace
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Old 07-04-2016, 02:13 PM
 
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It was never about eating pork, eating the flesh of swine in your garden means you have great disrespect for the laws of God, like Prodigal that began herding swine, it is just showing his disdain for the law, and he becomes as a dead man because he left the word of his father and showed great disrespect for the word of the father. In the end, he begs to return as just a slave, but his father welcomes him back, his returning with respect to the Torah. Jesus said,'' I never knew you lawbreakers.'' Because they didn't know or respect the law.


The lawless one ruled them.

Yes, and he is within us all, and the only way to expose him for what he is, is to return to the law, I personally believe at this moment in time. Peace
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Old 07-04-2016, 03:13 PM
 
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Yes, and he is within us all, and the only way to expose him for what he is, is to return to the law, I personally believe at this moment in time. Peace
Wrong. The way to expose him is to discriminate for him and only do things out of the Spirit of agape love for everyone involved. The Serpent has NO ability to discriminate between good and evil responses to our drives and urges. We must do it for him.
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Old 07-04-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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Have you ever eaten something that was just so tasty and delicious you just had to share it with someone you cared about? Well, that is as simple as the motive of my heart is. Taste of the Lord and see that He is good. Peace
You seem to believe you can discern people's relationship's with God. Umm...no. FYI: I KNOW God is good. I don't need to "taste of the Lord". Been there. Done that. Have the souvenir t-shirt.

I have no trouble sharing my beliefs with people. I've lost track of how many times people say something like, "The world would be a better place if there were more Christians like you." (Which usually embarrasses me, for a variety of reasons, but it is what it is.) They say that not because of what I believe but because of how I conduct my life. Which is to follow Jesus....not a book or a cult or a guru or a decoded Bible. Feed people. Help the poor. Visit the sick. Hold a door for a little old lady. Don't honk at people when their driving annoys you. Buy a cup of coffee for the homeless guy who sleeps on the bus bench.

What I don't do is tell people, "You simply must try my beliefs. They are the bestest ever and superior to whatever it is you believe." And I don't tell them "believe what I believe or the devil will have you." That's nothing but religious blackmail and fear mongering.
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Old 07-04-2016, 03:20 PM
 
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Wrong. The way to expose him is to discriminate for him and only do things out of the Spirit of agape love for everyone involved. The Serpent has NO ability to discriminate between good and evil responses to our drives and urges. We must do it for him.


I have plenty of abilities but Rbbi1 only thinks they can expose me, it's like saying a person is an alien but the alien looks like a human and so nobody sees it, nor could they unless of course the alien wanted to play.
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Old 07-04-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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You seem to believe you can discern people's relationship's with God. Umm...no. FYI: I KNOW God is good. I don't need to "taste of the Lord". Been there. Done that. Have the souvenir t-shirt.

I have no trouble sharing my beliefs with people. I've lost track of how many times people say something like, "The world would be a better place if there were more Christians like you." (Which usually embarrasses me, for a variety of reasons, but it is what it is.) They say that not because of what I believe but because of how I conduct my life. Which is to follow Jesus....not a book or a cult or a guru or a decoded Bible.

What I don't do is tell people, "You simply must try my beliefs. They are the bestest ever and superior to whatever it is you believe." And I don't tell them "believe what I believe or the devil will have you." That's nothing but religious blackmail and fear mongering.
See, this is why I want to be like Dew when I grow up.
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