Matthew 7:21-23 depart from Me! you wicked evildoers ; (believers, pray, sinners)
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The way we know the difference is context. Being tossed into the furnace or lake of fire, is not a refining.
As to suffering eternally in Hell? Nope Revelation tells us that all in it get out and that includes faithful men as well. Job actually asked to be hid there until the resurrection. Adam did not suffer nor was refined. He ceased to exist. He came from dust and no Adam existed before that and he returned to dust and no longer exists. The dead:
KJV Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Dead is dead.
Side note Hannibal.
Looking at the colors of the veil one would see the sea because that certain color came from a certain sea, and then you look at the other color and you see a sea, but this color comes from a different sea, and then you look at another color and see a furnace.
If one was standing before the throne, he would see two different seas, and a river of fire between these. Perhaps when one is taken from the sea and the fire doeth come, perhaps he will be left as a drink offering for those who have escaped.
I was just giving the heads up to Iran's supposed kings.
They are so deep in transgression that our Heavenly Father has turned his back on them.
Zatz you are brave.
Though you are not ready just yet.
According to who? Where in the ancient book of mythology is IRAN mentioned?
The nation of Iran was called Persia, its Biblical name, until 1935. Persia was one of the former great empires of the world, ruling from 539 B.C. to 331 B.C, until they were conquered by Alexander the Great.
So neither GOD nor the prophets had knowledge of the name change?
According to who? Where in the ancient book of mythology is IRAN mentioned?
The nation of Iran was called Persia, its Biblical name, until 1935. Persia was one of the former great empires of the world, ruling from 539 B.C. to 331 B.C, until they were conquered by Alexander the Great.
So neither GOD nor the prophets had knowledge of the name change?
Rather ineffective prophesying huh?
A name change hmmm.
Now why would these supposed kings think to change names?
Looking at the colors of the veil one would see the sea because that certain color came from a certain sea, and then you look at the other color and you see a sea, but this color comes from a different sea, and then you look at another color and see a furnace.
If one was standing before the throne, he would see two different seas, and a river of fire between these. Perhaps when one is taken from the sea and the fire doeth come, perhaps he will be left as a drink offering for those who have escaped.
LOL....you know you just described the Ancient of Days walking between the two pieces, don't you? Read my post to yours about the waters being divided. Same thing again. Peace
How blessed are the people who know the joyful sound of the shofar, the awakening blast. Yom Teruah, the day of the sounding the trumpets in the house of trumpets.
Awake, sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you" Ephesians 5:14{Rosh Hashanah}
Ephesians 4:30, being sealed unto the day of redemption refers to Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. God gave this festival to teach us that we will be judged on Rosh HaShanah and will be sealed unto the closing of the gates on Yom Kippur
Isaiah 26:19 the resurrection. The word awake is associated with the resurrection, as it is written, "Your dead will live; their corpses will rise. You who lie in the dust, awake and shout for joy, for your dew is as the dew of the dawn, and the earth will give birth to the departed spirits"
The shout begins a thousand year reign, an wakening but we are to remain awake
SHOUT/Awaken
First Thessalonians 4:16
6For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Romans 13 11And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. 12The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
Isaiah 27 13And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the LORD in the holy mount at Jerusalem.
Awake, you sleepers, from your sleep! Rouse yourselves, you slumberers, out of your slumber! Examine your deeds, and turn to G-d in repentance. Remember your Creator, you who are caught up in the daily round, losing sight of eternal truth; you are wasting your years in vain pursuits that neither profit nor save. Look closely at yourselves; improve your ways and your deeds. Abandon your evil ways, your unworthy schemes, every one of you! (Yad Hichot Teshuva 3.4).
Anyone knows that you had better be awake and aware on the day of trumpets, the last trump on Rosh Hashanah, the term,'' awakening,'' was always associated with Rosh Hashanah.
It is the little ">" symbol right next to the name. Clicking on it takes you to where the quote came from.
Well, I'll be. Been here for years and never noticed that. Learn something new everyday. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by nateswift
I found the thread just fine...didn't find where you explained what was asked, but reviewwing that thread was fun, thank you.
Agreed, on both counts.
Mitchell, you wrote:
"But physical life comes to an end and then the rule of the external laws of nature is gone and what we have chosen is all that is left because that is what the spirit is."
My question was, on what are you basing your conclusion that the underlined is true?
LOL....you know you just described the Ancient of Days walking between the two pieces, don't you? Read my post to yours about the waters being divided. Same thing again. Peace
The hard thing is figuring out that there is only one day, I mean it seems that way.
Passover and Tabernacles are the same day, you begin Passover at Midnight, at 6 P.M. the date changes.
I mean that At 6pm on the 14th day of the first month what day is it?
Is it Peach or is it Sukkot?
Both are the 14th and 15th day of the first month and both are the same in the 7th month.
On Passover your waters are divided to expose what is in your waters and all your sins are cast upon the waters, you are being exposed and God is a fire in between. On Sukkot God steps inside you just as he does on Passover, he steps inside your vat and crushed the grapes, they are both the same day and when you start looking at everything else, it looks like one day. You can find judgment in them all, and you can find spirit in them all.
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