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The Jesus character did say that no one comes to the father except through himself. So, that would be him saying you burn in hell if you do not believe in him.
When you see and understand that salvation from eternal hell was never taught in the scriptures, but conceived within a man who subtly supported it by the scriptures and eloquently convinced the masses, you then begin to be open to the idea Salvation is always in the now.
Salvation is in the now for those who are saved, but that does not eliminate hell. Salvation is automatically salvation form eternal hell.. The saved are not thrown into the lake of fire.
Salvation is in the now for those who are saved, but that does not eliminate hell. Salvation is automatically salvation form eternal hell.. The saved are not thrown into the lake of fire.
You have nothing but the now. Not only that Salvation from hell is not in the scriptures.
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, that whosoever believes [that God has sentenced all people (that He loved) to an eternity of torment, and then required that Jesus suffer for a short period of time and die -- which somehow satisfies His sense of justice -- and then requires that people must believe that them believing this is the only way God is able to forgive them] shall be saved [from eternal torment]." ~ John 3:16 (the added to version)
Well done, Pleroo. It is a travesty of ancient ignorance that refuses to employ ANY modern knowledge and understanding to the primitive narrative.
Not true. I don't have tomorrow or even the rest of today, but I also have the future.
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Not only that Salvation from hell is not in the scriptures.
It is if you understand it, and don't deny what it clearly says.
Rev 20:15 - And anyone's name not written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Rev 13:8 - All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.
Christians names were written in the book of life, before they were born.
Mt 25:21 - ...well done good and faithful slave, ...enter into the joy of your Master.
But some understand enough to know it was written by MEN for MEN...
You are half right.
The Bible says God inspired what the men who wrote the Bible wrote. I will continue putting my faith in what an omniscient God says over what errant men say with no evidence.
You are right that it was written for men(mankind).
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, that whosoever believes [that God has sentenced all people (that He loved) to an eternity of torment, and then required that Jesus suffer for a short period of time and die -- which somehow satisfies His sense of justice -- and then requires that people must believe that them believing this is the only way God is able to forgive them] shall be saved [from eternal torment]." ~ John 3:16 (the added to version)
It is amusing that those who accept man has free will, ignore it when it is convenient to do so. If man has free will and refuses to acknowledge Jesus as their Savior, whose fault is it?
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It is a travesty of ancient ignorance that refuses to employ ANY modern knowledge and understanding to the primitive narrative.
