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It appears to me, that you missed his overall message to love others.
like this one you wantonly miss:
Return to the Lord your God,
for he is gracious and compassionate,
slow to anger and abounding in love,
and he relents from sending calamity. ... OT God
however we know that that doesn't fit the malice narrative of the enlightened inward dwelling spirit.
So did yahweh.
It would be great if yahweh was more christian like from the start.
regretting making humans, drowning and slaughtering babies is totally love.
It is not Yahweh's fault. Very primitive ancient men interpreted and promoted their flawed beliefs about God which is why Jesus was needed to correct their errors and ignorance. "They knew not what they did."
It is not Yahweh's fault. Very primitive ancient men interpreted and promoted their flawed beliefs about God which is why Jesus was needed to correct their errors and ignorance. "They knew not what they did."
Kinda makes you wonder, why would Judaism
and Christianity get such divergent treatment
under the current interpretation of the rules?
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
Maybe you can expand on wondering why the Atheist\Agnostic, Islam forums get it and let me know.
I unfortunately have too much barbarian neanderthal ancestry blood lines for the humble non-judgmental to inform and enlighten me.
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Originally Posted by TRex2
I think it is more like Christians are singled
out for especially hateful treatment.
Especially the Fundamentalists who say that Christians
are secure in our Salvation thru the Grace of Christ.
(which is why it is in this topic thread)
Because: That is such a hateful message, don't ya' know!
You can all just knock it off right now. None of you are under any requirement to post here. If you don't like the way these forums work, then go post somewhere else. There are no plans to change any of the basic rules for these forums, particularly the basic concept of how they work. If that's not the way you want the forum you participate in to work, then quit posting. The forum isn't changing, and all these kinds of posts add nothing to the discussions. Going forward, they will be considered off topic.
Return to the Lord your God,
for he is gracious and compassionate,
slow to anger and abounding in love,
and he relents from sending calamity. ... OT God
however we know that that doesn't fit the malice narrative of the enlightened inward dwelling spirit.
Who cares what your hubris false beliefs of God or that referenced spokesman of demons thinks?
My beliefs are straight out of Torah...Where do yours come from?...And who might the spokesman for Demons be?...Hmmmm?,,,
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Why don't you petition the powers to be to remove the safe guards in the Judaism forum like:
This is the Judaism forum. No posts or threads pertaining to other faiths are permitted.
No proselytizing any non-Jewish Faith
It is meant for Jews interested in discussions among themselves and for others who want to learn more about this worldview and are interested in posing non-confrontational questions to Jews.
If you were to do so it might then put at ease being so rabidly paranoid about defending some delusional premise i.e. the red herring excuse for why you are here ... not to mention make things one step closer to all things being equal.
Surely you'd prefer the Judaism forum to be trolled under the banner of "About Judaism" as we Christians do "About Christianity".
As long as Christians persist in quoting from the Christian edited Torah, which they call the Old Testament. then Christians have, themselves, made a connection between Judaism and Christianity and since you also maintain that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, it will remain connected...And every time that I see a misquote of the Torah from your Christian edited Old Testament, claiming it to be directly translated from.........Wait for it........Wait for it......The Hebrew Scriptures...Which is the Jewish Bible, the Tanakh, the Torah, I will correct it with the actual Hebrew Scriptures...Every time that you state that you, as Gentiles, know the Jewish faith better than us Jews do, I will be here to correct that also....Christians like to attempt to use our Torah to validate their faith in Jesus, which actually travels in only one direction...To Jews, Jesus is meaningless, however, to Christians Jesus is in their Old Testament, which bears a striking resemblance to our Tanakh, with a change and a tweak here and there to get Jesus into the "Hebrew" Scriptures because, in the actual Hebrew Scriptures, he is nowhere to be found...Not spiritually, not metaphorically, not anything...But yet Christians persist...
The Torah does not apply to those saved by grace today, it has historical value only. Paul's writings (Romans thru Philemon) are written to believers in the body of Christ today, and we are not under the yoke of the Mosaic law.
Since you didn't answer the question, I'll ask it again...
My beliefs are straight out of Torah...Where do yours come from?...And who might the spokesman for Demons be?...Hmmmm?,,,...
So what ... they're no less misguided beliefs wrapped in hubris blindness like those who took the hint when Jesus the Messiah called those who rejected him in this exchange: (John 8)
“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did.
As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word. .... Abraham did not do such things.
You are doing the works of your own father.”
“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested
Jesus said to them,
“If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. ...
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires.
... Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do
not belong to God.”
p.s. Jesus answered your question who might be the spokesmen for demons
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Originally Posted by Richard1965
As long as Christians persist in quoting from the Christian edited Torah, which they call the Old Testament. then Christians have, themselves, made a connection between Judaism and Christianity and since you also maintain that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, it will remain connected...And every time that I see a misquote of the Torah from your Christian edited Old Testament, claiming it to be directly translated from.........Wait for it........Wait for it......The Hebrew Scriptures...Which is the Jewish Bible, the Tanakh, the Torah, I will correct it with the actual Hebrew Scriptures...Every time that you state that you, as Gentiles, know the Jewish faith better than us Jews do, I will be here to correct that also....Christians like to attempt to use our Torah to validate their faith in Jesus, which actually travels in only one direction...To Jews, Jesus is meaningless, however, to Christians Jesus is in their Old Testament, which bears a striking resemblance to our Tanakh, with a change and a tweak here and there to get Jesus into the "Hebrew" Scriptures because, in the actual Hebrew Scriptures, he is nowhere to be found...Not spiritually, not metaphorically, not anything...But yet Christians persist...
And fyi besides the dismissed hubris red herring you cling to, there's another gem for you...
Jesus tells the unbelieving Jews that it's going to be the Gentiles that going to take their place in God's Kingdom ...yup the NT Church believer is now "Israel", not the nation of.
“There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.
People will come from east and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God." ~ Jesus
Go ahead, persist calling Jesus meaningless, a phantom of Abraham who seen him in his day.
or alternatively heed Jesus the Messiah , the Jehovah.
Last edited by twin.spin; 02-16-2018 at 11:49 PM..
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