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Old 04-26-2019, 10:40 PM
 
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What does mystery mean?

"It is in Him, and through the shedding of His blood, that we have our deliverance–the forgiveness of our offences–so abundant was God’s grace, the grace which He, the possessor of all wisdom and understanding, lavished upon us, when He made known to usthe mystery of His will. And this is in harmony with God’s merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it-- the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him. And you…"

Mystery=

Musterion=

Denotes, not the mysterious (as with the English word) but that which, being outside the range of unassisted natural apprehension, can be made known only by Divine revelation, and is made known in a manner and at a time appointed by God, and to those only who are illumined by His Spirit.

"The mystery which hath been hid from all ages and generations..."

Source, Guide, Goal of ta panta

 
Old 04-27-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Aimiel

"Those who are eternally lost are headed to destruction (in hell).

That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.

Of every single thing you say you will give account in judgment and if your fruit is rotten, as it appears, you'll be judged guilty.

But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment."

Dear Aimiel: There is no such animal as being "eternally lost"! If you would like to explore aionios and aidios you have come to the right link.

In the meantime know this: there are 22 distinct words in the Old Covenant regarding destruction, at least 6 linking destruction with new life and being brought to change & transformation.

"What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath–prepared for destruction." Romans 9:22

Fitted/ Prepared=katartivzw

Katartivzw=

To render or to fit.

To make sound or complete.

To mend what has been broken or rent.

To repair what has been broken or rent.

To put in order.

To arrange. To adjust.

To fit or frame for one’s self.

To strengthen, to perfect, to complete.

To make one what he aught to be.

Dr. Marvin Vincent

Fitted/prepared= kathrtismena=

Literally: adjusted or mended.

“ei de qelwn o qeoV endeixasqai thn orghn kai gnwrisai to dunaton autou hnegken en pollh makroqumia skeuh orghV kathrtismena eiV apwleian”

Romans 9:22 - What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction?.

Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?
 
Old 04-27-2019, 03:51 PM
 
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Christ Triumphant

Preface

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Chris...nt.htm#Preface

Chapter I – The Question Stated

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Chris...t.htm#Chapter1

Chapter II – The Popular Creed Wholly Untenable

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Chris...t.htm#Chapter2

Chapter III – The Popular Creed Wholly Untenable (continued)

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Chris...t.htm#Chapter3

Chapter IV – What the Church Teaches

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Chris...t.htm#Chapter4

Chapter V – What the Church Teaches (continued)

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Chris...t.htm#Chapter5

Chapter VI – Universalism and Creation

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Chris...t.htm#Chapter6

Chapter VII – What the Old Testament Teaches

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Chris...t.htm#Chapter7

Chapter VIII – What the New Testament Teaches

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Chris...t.htm#Chapter8

Chapter IX – What the New Testament Teaches (continued)

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Chris...t.htm#Chapter9

Chapter X – Summary and Conclusion

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Chris...t.htm#CHAPTERX
 
Old 04-28-2019, 08:18 AM
 
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Hope Beyond Hell

https://www.hopebeyondhell.net/
 
Old 04-28-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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Indeed, Universalism was predominant in the early Churches.
 
Old 04-28-2019, 12:26 PM
 
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Indeed, Universalism was predominant in the early Churches.
It is buried in the heart of all, but fundamentalists don't do deep, although deep is always calling out to them.
 
Old 04-28-2019, 05:55 PM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerwade View Post
Indeed, Universalism was predominant in the early Churches.
Dear Jerwade: That is a fact!

The Beautiful Heresy

OK. Perhaps you're new to Universalism and you think you've stumbled across some new age, new-fangled heresy. Would it surprise you to know that Universalism was present in the early church and that people like Origen and Clement gleaned it from the scriptures? Would it surprise you that Eternal Torment (ET) wasn't commonly accepted until around the year 500?

The Beautiful Heresy- Christian Universalism: The Early Church

The First 500 Years

https://tentmaker.org/books/Prevailing.html
 
Old 04-29-2019, 04:09 AM
 
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It is buried in the heart of all, but fundamentalists don't do deep, although deep is always calling out to them.
Dear pcamps: Deep calleth unto deep at the noise of Your waterspouts. Fundamentalists tend to live in a very narrow range of our Father. Only He can expand any of us by the working of His dynamo.

God's Plan Of The Ages

“During the present wicked eon (Gal.1:4), Sin reigns, Satan who is said to be “the god of this eon” (2 Cor.4:4) blinds and deceives mankind, and death swallows up the race (1 Cor.15:22).

But notwithstanding, God is over all and is in supreme control. He is the eonian God.

In due time He will deliver the entire creation and bring good out of all the suffering mankind is called upon to endure (Rom.8;18-23).”

God's Plan Of the Ages (with Concordance))

saviourofall.org/Tracts/Eons2.html

The whole of created life shall be delivered/set free from the bondage of corruption...
 
Old 04-29-2019, 10:59 AM
 
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God's Plan Of The Ages

“During the present wicked eon (Gal.1:4), Sin reigns, Satan who is said to be “the god of this eon” (2 Cor.4:4) blinds and deceives mankind, and death swallows up the race (1 Cor.15:22).

But notwithstanding, God is over all and is in supreme control. He is the eonian God.

In due time He will deliver the entire creation and bring good out of all the suffering mankind is called upon to endure (Rom.8;18-23).”

God's Plan Of the Ages (with Concordance)

The eons of the Bible With Concordance, God’s purpose of the eons.

The whole of created life shall be delivered/set free from the bondage of corruption...
 
Old 05-01-2019, 05:33 PM
 
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"Some have asked what good does it do to believe that God will save all men. You might as well ask what good it does to believe that God will save some men... Every evangelist believes that it is God's will to save some men during this present time, or he would not be an evangelist. And if a man does not believe that God will save any men past this present age, what does he expect to be doing in the ages to come? To what end, then, is such a man's "sonship" ministry? Why strive and labor to be a Son, to set creation free, if what God is accomplishing in redemption during this present age is all there is...If there is no out-working of redemption in the ages to come, no extension, nor expansion of the kingdom of God beyond the formation of the Body of Christ, they why not settle for the fundamentalist's version of heaven and content ourselves with spending eternity shouting up and down the golden streets, waving palm branches and strumming harps? --J. Preston Eby

https://kingdom-resources.com/category/j-preston-eby/
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