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View Poll Results: What do Christians believe the "mark of the beast" will be?
A literal mark of "666" in forehead or hand 10 10.99%
An RFID or micro-chip in forehead or hand 35 38.46%
A form of credit/ID card (to hold in the hand) 1 1.10%
Other option other than ones listed 45 49.45%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-10-2008, 10:22 AM
 
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Should then that be a source of comfort? That God places the seal on believers.
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:49 PM
 
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I think the seal on the foreheads of the believers will only be seen by the believers, maybe a cross, but it will something that will identify them as believers.
Christ means annointed. The annointing of the fullness of the Spirit is light.
In the Scriptures whenever one is described with the annointing, they are said to have a face that shines like the sun.
THe forehead is the reality of the symbolic Cornerstone or Power of Christ (annointing). We are called to have our minds single to His glory, there is a physical change to a person when that happens, a transfiguration of the flesh into the Divine nature, that is spoken of by Peter.

THe seal of God is Light.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:44 PM
 
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In the Roman Empire, a mark was a normal identifying symbol that slaves and soldiers had on their bodies, like tattoos. They identified people with a particular sort of worship, too. The antichrist will have a similar requirement that will be visible on the hand or the forehead. As I said, I have no idea what it could, or will, be. But it will allow people to do business as usual - buying and selling of food and other things. Without it, people will be cut off, even from necessities.

I believe the antichrist (the beast) will have a name involving a numbering system. It's not explained what that name or numbering system will be or what the significance of it will be, just that the "number of his name will be 666." Names in the Greek, Hebrew and Latin have numerical equivalents and, when antichrist is revealed, his will be 666.

I shouldn't have said that it will be a cashless society, but it's definitely a possibility. Through the job that I have, I can see it happen. Checks are already being phased out.
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:59 PM
 
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In the Roman Empire, a mark was a normal identifying symbol that slaves and soldiers had on their bodies, like tattoos. They identified people with a particular sort of worship, too. The antichrist will have a similar requirement that will be visible on the hand or the forehead. As I said, I have no idea what it could, or will, be. But it will allow people to do business as usual - buying and selling of food and other things. Without it, people will be cut off, even from necessities.

I believe the antichrist (the beast) will have a name involving a numbering system. It's not explained what that name or numbering system will be or what the significance of it will be, just that the "number of his name will be 666." Names in the Greek, Hebrew and Latin have numerical equivalents and, when antichrist is revealed, his will be 666.

I shouldn't have said that it will be a cashless society, but it's definitely a possibility. Through the job that I have, I can see it happen. Checks are already being phased out.
I think you were right to say it will be a cashless society.....if it were not, those who refuse to take the mark will still be able to buy and sell "illegally", which we know will not happen. Paper money will have to be completely obsolete and worth nothing.

I know whatever the mark is will involve the head or the hand, but I think we will all be surprised as to what it actually ends up to be. I think it will just be another technological advance that most of the world will embrace, completely unaware or uncaring that it is the mark of the beast and sealing their eternal fate of the 2nd death.
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:41 PM
 
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This subject may have been covered before, but I couldn't find a thread relating to it except one debating something really bizarre that took scripture completely out of context.

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So my question is.....what do you think it will be? The Bible says it will either be on the hand or forehead. Do you think it will literally be the numbers "666"? Some say a barcode or invisible tattoo that has to be scanned. I have my own thoughts, but I wanted to hear what others think.

Before anyone says anything.....no, I'm not going to be here anyway. But, there will be plenty left behind after the rapture that will know what has happened even though they didn't believe before. If they accept Christ after the rapture, maybe someone's idea as to what to look out for might be helpful. After all, the Bible teaches that many will be deceived.
I'm not sure, but I think it will be something that no one will suspect
something that is convenient ; "for those who are here..something decitful
we are now being inundated with all sort of gadgets, ipods, cellphones, more cellphones, technology gets smaller and smaller.
whatever it is , I believe it will be something that will mock Christ, or emulate
some of the miracles that Christ performed...
my .02 cents
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:58 PM
 
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In the Roman Empire, a mark was a normal identifying symbol that slaves and soldiers had on their bodies, like tattoos. They identified people with a particular sort of worship, too. The antichrist will have a similar requirement that will be visible on the hand or the forehead. As I said, I have no idea what it could, or will, be. But it will allow people to do business as usual - buying and selling of food and other things. Without it, people will be cut off, even from necessities.

I believe the antichrist (the beast) will have a name involving a numbering system. It's not explained what that name or numbering system will be or what the significance of it will be, just that the "number of his name will be 666." Names in the Greek, Hebrew and Latin have numerical equivalents and, when antichrist is revealed, his will be 666.

I shouldn't have said that it will be a cashless society, but it's definitely a possibility. Through the job that I have, I can see it happen. Checks are already being phased out.
Simple Living: Are you not making an assumption that "antichrist" is the beast? Where in the Revelation is the word Antichrist? It is found ONLY in the letters of John and there it is used not of a single person but of many persons--

1 John 4:3--In the context, John is speaking of the spirit of truth and the spirit of error (4:6) He is speaking to those first-century saints when he says: "BELOVED, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world [that first century world is foremost in mind here]. By this you [the original recipients of his letter] know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh in of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is NOW ALREADY in the world" (vss. 1-3).

2 John also contains this term. The context of the letter also deals with encouragement and warnings against false teaching. It is address to either a specific individual or perhaps a church ("elect lady and her family"). Either way, it deals with the times in which John lived.

The first-century original recipients of this letter (although there are principles for us as well) were to walk in the commandments of God because "many deceivers have gone out into the world [that first-century world] who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. THIS is a deceiver and an antichrist."

The beast, to be an antichrist, would have to be one or a group who openly denied that Christ had come in the flesh. This is not stated concerning the beast of the Revelation.

He was, however, a first-century, pre-A.D. 70 personage since John wrote of those things that were to happen in his day--the things which were to shortly take place because the time was then near! Nero fits perfectly the character of the beast and the line of the kings!

Preterist
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:27 AM
 
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Explain to me what is wrong with it and then tell me why your version is absolutely correct and supportive of you even saying "Come on" to another person's beliefs. And you still haven't answered my question as to who decides what a false doctrine is. Apparently, it seems, you are the one doing the deciding.
"I charge you therefore before God and Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all long-suffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry." (2 Timothy versus 1-5). To God be the Glory.
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:32 AM
 
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I know whatever the mark is will involve the head or the hand, but I think we will all be surprised as to what it actually ends up to be. I think it will just be another technological advance that most of the world will embrace, completely unaware or uncaring that it is the mark of the beast and sealing their eternal fate of the 2nd death.
But DOTL, we are no longer under the law! Why would God change the rules and once again allow "things" to be a part of our salvation or damnation? In Christ only is our righteousness. Our destiny will never hinge on accepting or rejecting a certain earthly "thing".

"Stand fast in the liberty wherewith Christ has made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage."
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:04 PM
 
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That's why we need to be led by the Holy Spirit , so we won't mess around and be left here to find out!!
I don't care what it is,
as long as we are not living to go through this terrible time
It's getting bad enough now, agree?
Who want to be here then?
my .0cents
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:07 PM
 
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But DOTL, we are no longer under the law! Why would God change the rules and once again allow "things" to be a part of our salvation or damnation? In Christ only is our righteousness. Our destiny will never hinge on accepting or rejecting a certain earthly "thing".

"Stand fast in the liberty wherewith Christ has made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage."
We are no longer under the Mosaic law.
The Commandments of Christ have never been changed or voided.


godspeed,

freedom

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