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Old 11-04-2022, 09:54 AM
 
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LOL The dead don't listen well. Makes as much sense as ministering to mud and twigs. Who knows what mischief went into these words supposedly attributed to Peter.

Get yer koine zao on.
Jesus preached the gospel to those who were disobedient and had died even long ago.

Jesus filled the Universe, present, past, and future.


Jesus filled the whole universe (see Ephesians 4:10).
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Old 11-04-2022, 10:18 AM
 
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The work of Christ is infinite in its range. It means that no man who ever lived is outside the grace of God.

The work of Christ is in terms of complete triumph. There is nothing in earth and heaven outside the empire of Christ. To all men he brought the new relationship between man and God. In his death he brought the good news to the dead; in his resurrection he conquered death; even the angelic and the demonic powers are subject to him.

The sufferer has become Christ the victor; Christ the crucified has become Christ the crowned.
The Bible tells us plainly that some will not be saved.
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Old 11-04-2022, 10:35 AM
 
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Jesus came for the living; to give new life.

Let the dead bury their own.
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Old 11-04-2022, 11:51 AM
 
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I’m not sure that where we see the word angel it should be understood as meaning non-human, in the Scriptures angel means messenger and it is human beings who are Gods messengers

Heb 1:7**And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Heb 1:8**But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Heb 1:9**Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Heb 1:10**And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
Heb 1:11**They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
Heb 1:12**And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
Heb 1:13**But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Heb 1:14**Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
I agree with you 100% on this one Meerkat.

Angels are ministering spirits which are sometimes sent to minister to those on earth.

In the Bible, angels are described as men which appear unusually white or bright. After the resurrection of Jesus, two angles appeared to the women were described, "two men stood by them in shiny garments". (Luke 24:4) And the angel who appeared to John in Revelation said, "I am your fellow servant and of your brethren that have a testimony of Jesus". (Revelation 20:12)
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Old 11-04-2022, 12:02 PM
 
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I believe the Roman and Greek writers looked forward to a fulfillment of their own stories/myths/legends and we need to read between the lines of when these things were to take place, how they were going to take place, in what way they were going to take place

The past 2000 years equates to 2 Days and we now look back on the actual history and hierarchy that was predicted at the beginning in the gospels and epistles and Revelation.
Very true.
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Old 11-04-2022, 12:19 PM
 
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Jesus came for the living; to give new life.

Let the dead bury their own.
All are living, even the spirits of the dead.


Luke 20:38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.
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Old 11-04-2022, 12:49 PM
 
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Believers when absent from the body will be present with the Lord. Unbelievers will be resurrected at the end of the Millenium and be fitted with a body made for hell (won't burn up). Try with everything you have to be in the book of life.........hell is going to be an eternal nightmare.......pitch black and filled with demons.............
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Old 11-04-2022, 12:51 PM
 
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The Bible tells us plainly that some will not be saved.


Welcome to the Divine equation.

" Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people." -NIV

"As by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life." -KJV

"Yes, Adam’s one sin brings condemnation for everyone, but Christ’s one act of righteousness brings a right relationship with God and new life for everyone." -NLT
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Old 11-04-2022, 12:55 PM
 
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Believers when absent from the body will be present with the Lord. Unbelievers will be resurrected at the end of the Millenium and be fitted with a body made for hell (won't burn up). Try with everything you have to be in the book of life.........hell is going to be an eternal nightmare.......pitch black and filled with demons.............


Nonsense 101 ! ! !
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Old 11-04-2022, 01:52 PM
 
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You like to hurt yourself?

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Welcome to the Divine equation.
You equated wrongly.


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" Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people." -NIV

"As by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life." -KJV

"Yes, Adam’s one sin brings condemnation for everyone, but Christ’s one act of righteousness brings a right relationship with God and new life for everyone." -NLT
All sinned but not all will come to Jesus to be saved.

Not going to happen.

You can't take from God's preserved written words.

You want people to follow your teaching where you get to mark out parts of the Bible?

Who are you to do that?

We are to believe and obey God and not men.

Here is one scripture that explains there is an eternal punishment.
Matthew 25:46 Jesus said, “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Many believe in a temporary punishment, whereas after punishment all the unrepentant will go to eternal life with Jesus. Jesus says that there is an eternal punishment.


Here is more for you to think about carefully:


Here is one scripture that should stop some from saying that Jesus will save all.
Exodus 32:33 The LORD replied to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book.


Some believe in Universalism, a belief that all will be saved. However, this one scripture shows that God will blot people out of the book of the living.
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