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"For even if so be that there are those being termed gods, whether in heaven or on earth, even as there are many gods and many lords, nevertheless for US there is ONE God, the FATHER, out of Whom ALLIS, and we for Him, and ONELORD, JESUS CHRIST, through Whom all is, and we through Him" (I Cor. 8:5-6).
Jesus is the exact image or representation of the Father' nature. (Colossians 1, Hebrews 1) What is an image or a representation? The fulness of God dwells in Him and when we look at Jesus, we "see" the invisible God, the Father, the Supreme Being. But Jesus is subject to the Father and always points to the Father.
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Which means Jesus is not the absolute highest power or the supreme being?
1 Corinthians 15
The Son will deliver the kingdom up to the God and Father
He will reign until He puts all enemies under His feet
The One who put all things in subjection to the Son is not subjected to the Son
"When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him..."
I see here that God the Father is supreme and that the Son is subordinate to Him. God bless.
Last edited by ShanaBrown; 10-28-2008 at 09:17 PM..
Which means Jesus is not the absolute highest power or the supreme being?
According to the modern day church probably. But not according to the bible. "...I am going to the Father, for the Father is GREATER than I" (John 14:28).
"Nor Jesus said to him, Why are you terming Me good? No one is good except ONE, GOD" (Mark 10:18).
"Now I want you to be aware that the Head of every man is Christ, yet the head of the woman is the man, yet the Head of Christ IS GOD" (I Cor. 11:3).
Do you believe the bible when it says this or do you believe the church?
Logic, when seeing the different posters here, you have to realize that some are members of the Christian sects or cults that deny the Trinity of the Godhead, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. This is what separates the major Christian groups from these sects, namely Jehovah's Witnesses, Latter Day Saints (Mormons) and Christian Science. There are others, but these are the most common ones. They all proclaim some reverence and devotion to Jesus but are adamant that Jesus is only a son, a minor god or secondary god but not equal and one with God.
While Catholics and Protestants and Orthodoxy have much to disagree about, they are all united in a doctrine of the Trinity.
I don`t belong to any of the organized religions you stated above. Including the modern day organized religious sects such as catholicism..protestism..or any of the other ism`s. I use to for over 40 yrs. I grew up in the church and am well versed on the arguments for all of the church`s heresy. But as I grew and studied, God began to open my eyes to a lot of the heretical teaching of the church. It didn`t make a whole lot of sense. He is supposed to be a God of truth but even organized religion can`t agree on what is truth. I know I know...."we believe in the essentials ".... hogwash. Speaking in tongues is either real or it isn`t. Baptism is either essential or it isn`t.
You are either born again or you are not (osas). Praying to Mary is either biblical or it isn`t. You either go to heaven right away when you die or you don`t. Hell is either a place with literal burning flames or it isn`t. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. The religious sects or organized religions of today claim to have the handle on the truth but I wonder what truth they`re talking about. Cause their motto is..if you don`t believe exactly like my cult or sect...insert any of the modern day denominations here...you will burn forever! I guess it depends which organized religious building or gathering you walk in to. I would rather read the bible and pray for understanding then get a schooled preacher or my church to explain to me.
"For even if so be that there are those being termed gods, whether in heaven or on earth, even as there are many gods and many lords, nevertheless for US there is ONE God, the FATHER, out of Whom ALLIS, and we for Him, and ONELORD, JESUS CHRIST, through Whom all is, and we through Him" (I Cor. 8:5-6).
Jesus is the exact image or representation of the Father' nature. (Colossians 1, Hebrews 1) What is an image or a representation? The fulness of God dwells in Him and when we look at Jesus, we "see" the invisible God, the Father, the Supreme Being. But Jesus is subject to the Father and always points to the Father.
1 Corinthians 15
The Son will deliver the kingdom up to the God and Father
He will reign until He puts all enemies under His feet
The One who put all things in subjection to the Son is not subjected to the Son
"When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him..."
I see here that God the Father is supreme and that the Son is subordinate to Him. God bless.
the Piscean dispensation that raised Jesus up to the status of a God is over
Worshiping Jesus will not help you gain self mastery.. Only oneness with God, your own Presence, will help you. Jesus should be viewed as an Ascended Being, Guide, Brother on the Path, Guru, etc., and not as a deity to worship.
Wow, this image reminds me of someone, or shall i say "something" else well known, which isn't religion based. The eyes, the lights... Hmmm... i'm wondering.
Quick question for you guys to discuss until I can get back here:
Is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords and Name Above All Names worthy of worship?
Should we, as Christian, worship Jesus Christ?
Why or why not?
God bless!
Yes, Jesus is worthy of our praise, not to say that Jesus is our God. What he has done for us alone is enough. If it was not for Jesus, then we would be lost. He died in our place, he was perfect, but took on our sin in his perfect and Holy body. He was beat and spit on for us. Now you know that if someone spits on us, well I will leave that alone. But, Jesus is so worthy. Nothing was made without him, and that includes us. He love us, and died for us, now what man would do that. Most men want even pay child support, let alone die. Now men if this does not apply to you, please don't get angry, but men if this does, just do better.
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the Piscean dispensation that raised Jesus up to the status of a God is over
