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No just because you slip doesnt mean you're in bondage.
If you continue to slip then you will or are in bondage.
Christ has set me free from past bondages of which i dont have problems with today.
I used to get drunk before...I dont get drunk anymore
I was set freed from that bondage.
As was I brother, praise His name!
I have been freed from many bondages of the past that I used to commit. But I still have a ways to go. This IS my bondage. Otherwise I would be free, to even walk into the bar, without that particular temptation.
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If you continue to slip then you will(be) or are in bondage.
Are any of us prefect? If not, then I stand on my previous posts, which means we have absolutely no right to judge another for their actions. I could see Jesus drawing that line in the dirt, and the thought scares the hell right out of me. It is why we ALL must be extremely careful how we, as Christians, carry ourselves when dealing with unbelievers, and even fellow believers.
While I would agree that expressed sin, out in the open, should be dealt with immediately, for the sake of the surrounding sanctity of our fellowship, those sins which are quiet, and in secret, only God knows. When a person comes to us with a secret sinful desire, our response should always be one, first of Love, then compassion, and then a response that only the Spirit could give. Let us, let the Spirit speak on behalf of God. If not, we should tie the tongue up. Otherwise we make ourselves out to be God, and Judge.
If you were going on multiple threads telling people and defending the idea that there's nothing wrong with being 'drunk' then 'yes' I would write the same way to you also.
That is not judging/condemning unless you see me telling someone that they are condemned to hell.
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Originally Posted by HotinAZ
As was I brother, praise His name!
I have been freed from many bondages of the past that I used to commit. But I still have a ways to go. This IS my bondage. Otherwise I would be free, to even walk into the bar, without that particular temptation.
Are any of us prefect? If not, then I stand on my previous posts, which means we have absolutely no right to judge another for their actions. I could see Jesus drawing that line in the dirt, and the thought scares the hell right out of me. It is why we ALL must be extremely careful how we, as Christians, carry ourselves when dealing with unbelievers, and even fellow believers.
While I would agree that expressed sin, out in the open, should be dealt with immediately, for the sake of the surrounding sanctity of our fellowship, those sins which are quiet, and in secret, only God knows. When a person comes to us with a secret sinful desire, our response should always be one, first of Love, then compassion, and then a response that only the Spirit could give. Let us, let the Spirit speak on behalf of God. If not, we should tie the tongue up. Otherwise we make ourselves out to be God, and Judge.
How can a person repent if THEY dont recognize that it is a sin..and realize THEY are wrong?
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I asked God for forgiveness if God really believes it to be a sin.....Why would I want to enrage God? you know what I mean....I want to be on his good side.
If you were going on multiple threads telling people and defending the idea that there's nothing wrong with being 'drunk' then 'yes' I would write the same way to you also.
That is not judging/condemning unless you see me telling someone that they are condemned to hell.
I would never tell a gay man he is going to hell for just being who he is. I most assuredly, am never going to tell a gay man that having sex with the same gender is anything but sin. So if anyone is looking for acceptence for that, they will be looking elsewhere, and they WILL find it. But not here, and not from me. There are very "liberal" churches that do condone this sort of behavior, no different than people with other sins looking for acceptance IN their sins. I am sure there are many professed Christians in the bars, getting drunk. I am sure there are many professed Christians, having premarital sex, and committing adultry, that find acceptance for what it is that they do.
But we are called to Love first and foremost. In that Love, there is acceptance, not for the sin, but rather the sinner. We should always be seeking the lost to join us on our own journey of repentance, towards perfection. There is strength in numbers. We should be there to help pick them up, no different than we would want them to pick us up, when we fall. See how this works? But if all we do is judge them, when they fall, then we might as well pick up stones and stone them. To God, it would seem no different. At least that is what I got out of the line in the sand.
I asked God for forgiveness if God really believes it to be a sin.....Why would I want to enrage God? you know what I mean....I want to be on his good side.
If you want to know if something is a sin, look in His Words,,the Bible. And it is there in plain written English. There is no being on the good side of God, by the way. There is no being on the bad side either. It is, what it is.
One day, you will find yourself standing in front of Him, and without the Blood of Jesus cleansing you of your repentant sin, "you will melt away like a candle standing in front of a blast furnace"Paul Washer saying).
It has nothing to do with His "good side", or "bad side". Sin, and evil can never be in the presence of God the Father. It is why flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
I would never tell a gay man he is going to hell for just being who he is. I most assuredly, am never going to tell a gay man that having sex with the same gender is anything but sin. So if anyone is looking for acceptence for that, they will be looking elsewhere, and they WILL find it. But not here, and not from me. There are very "liberal" churches that do condone this sort of behavior, no different than people with other sins looking for acceptance IN their sins. I am sure there are many professed Christians in the bars, getting drunk. I am sure there are many professed Christians, having premarital sex, and committing adultry, that find acceptance for what it is that they do.
But we are called to Love first and foremost. In that Love, there is acceptance, not for the sin, but rather the sinner. We should always be seeking the lost to join us on our own journey of repentance, towards perfection. There is strength in numbers. We should be there to help pick them up, no different than we would want them to pick us up, when we fall. See how this works? But if all we do is judge them, when they fall, then we might as well pick up stones and stone them. To God, it would seem no different. At least that is what I got out of the line in the sand.
Racists Christians will be the ones that go to hell.
There are two things that really, really bother me. 1. Christians that are racists, and 2. Christians that decide who is going to hell or not. And in that same breath they will say that they are not judging, but that God is and he will send them to hell. Sad, isn't it?
And in that same breath they will say that they are not judging, but that God is and he will send them to hell. Sad, isn't it?
The Bible does state in a few places the types of people who will not enter through the heavenly gates. It is our responsibility to let others know what the Word says about this and then let them decide for themselves the life they choose to live.
Because the words of the scripture were twisted around by humans...so get over yourself.
I bet gluttons don't pray to God every night for overeating. I bet materialistic people don't pray to God for purchasing nice clothing and video games...please.
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If God really believes it to be a sin?
How can a person repent if THEY dont recognize that it is a sin..and realize THEY are wrong?
Didn't I already say I was Christian and accepted Jesus into my heart. Why don't you stop harassing me? That is harassment and you'd better stop now.
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Originally Posted by HotinAZ
If you want to know if something is a sin, look in His Words,,the Bible. And it is there in plain written English. There is no being on the good side of God, by the way. There is no being on the bad side either. It is, what it is.
One day, you will find yourself standing in front of Him, and without the Blood of Jesus cleansing you of your repentant sin, "you will melt away like a candle standing in front of a blast furnace"Paul Washer saying).
It has nothing to do with His "good side", or "bad side". Sin, and evil can never be in the presence of God the Father. It is why flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
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. Otherwise we make ourselves out to be God, and Judge.
Paul Washer saying).
