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Old 12-08-2008, 09:53 AM
 
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If we accept Christ into our hearts, and His word is written in our hearts... why are we habitually tied to a physical object that can be manipulated by men and turned into a detour rather than a direct route.

We worship in Spirit to God, not the scriptures. Which can not bring us to life everlasting. That is the role of Christ.


godspeed,

freedom
because the bible says, in (Jeremiah 17:9) "The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?

I hear people in this forum say, that God wants them to be homosexual therefore it is ok because they prayed about it and they have received peace in their heart, the bible was written by fallible men who are prejudice, racist etc.....

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Old 12-08-2008, 09:54 AM
 
Location: God's Country
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Thank you, I'm suffering the Monday morning slowdown.

I believe we have personal dialog (that's two way) with Him through the Spirit, but nothing that will blatantly contradict what He has documented.
Hey I totally understand that! And I agree with what you say here.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Pilot Point, TX
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If we accept Christ into our hearts, and His word is written in our hearts... why are we habitually tied to a physical object that can be manipulated by men and turned into a detour rather than a direct route.

We worship in Spirit to God, not the scriptures. Which can not bring us to life everlasting. That is the role of Christ.


godspeed,

freedom
Rev 19:13 "...His name is called The Word of God."
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Pilot Point, TX
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because the bible says, in (Jeremiah 17:9) "The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?

I hear people in this forum say, that God wants them to be homosexual therefore it is ok because they prayed about it and they have received peace in their heart, the bible was written by fallible men who are prejudice, racist etc.....
The relationship's foundation is built on the unity between the Cornerstone and the regenerated heart.

A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. (Eze 36:26)
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:31 AM
 
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The relationship on God's part is always there. It is in every word of the Bible. The Bible can be considered His love letter to us.

I think that is why we have what we do in the Scripture. The rest of our knowledge comes to us as we pursue a relationship with HIM. As we get to know GOD our understanding grows. It is like that with anything. I could pick up and read a biography on someone, say Mike Huckabee and it would tell me what I need to know about him, the facts. But it is when I spend time with Huck that I really get to know and understand who he is. The book helps, but I also need a relationship to full understand and know Him. The Bible is the same- it contains what we need, but it is the relationship that we really know God.
Thank you so much for this post..It says what I believe about the purpose of the bible and most importantly the purpose of having a personal relationship with him...Seems I could never find the right words to make my point..You did
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:46 AM
 
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The relationship's foundation is built on the unity between the Cornerstone and the regenerated heart.

A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. (Eze 36:26)
I won't dispute that but what is "regenerated"? You still fall into the ranks of "feelings" without the bible which is God's word to us, how would know what is a right "feeling" from a "wrong feeling"?
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:04 AM
 
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I won't dispute that but what is "regenerated"? You still fall into the ranks of "feelings" without the bible which is God's word to us, how would know what is a right "feeling" from a "wrong feeling"?
By accepting the light (Spirit) of Christ into your heart, becoming still and being led by the spirit.

The Jeremiah quote is refering to those that don't have Christ abiding in them.

If you ask of God, will He forsake you?

As well,.... as a post by HotinAZ pointed out, the bible was not in the homes of believers for 1,500 yrs.
God would not leave such an important issue to a material object.

Seek HIM first, and His righteousness and ALL else will be added.

Our heart is the microphone and the receiver to the Spirit of God. The only acceptable sacrafice is an Open Heart, and a Contrite Spirit.. Selah.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:23 AM
 
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By accepting the light (Spirit) of Christ into your heart, becoming still and being led by the spirit.

The Jeremiah quote is refering to those that don't have Christ abiding in them.

If you ask of God, will He forsake you?

As well,.... as a post by HotinAZ pointed out, the bible was not in the homes of believers for 1,500 yrs.
God would not leave such an important issue to a material object.

Seek HIM first, and His righteousness and ALL else will be added.

Our heart is the microphone and the receiver to the Spirit of God. The only acceptable sacrifice is an Open Heart, and a Contrite Spirit.. Selah.

godspeed,

freedom
Again I do not disagree but the bible is instrumental. Search the Scriptures daily, respond to the Holy Spirit within, and live by faith.

(2 Timothy 3:16)

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

In His perfect Word is everything we need “for doctrine, for reproof, for correction and instruction in righteousness” That is all I am saying.

The Holy Spirit leads us to the truth, The Holy Spirit reminds us what Jesus taught us, written in the bible. Guiding, correcting, and convicting us of sin.

I am just saying, how do we know what is spirit led and what is just feelings? from gay clergy to emergent christians so we go to the bible (God's word) and see if there is a basis and vice versa.

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Old 12-08-2008, 11:51 AM
 
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there is no recipe for chocolate chip cookies in scripture.

but, as anyone who has had on knows

their divine!
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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I dont think we need a recipe for chocolate chip cookie even if we may want one.

I believe many here have made some good points. We must remember we are commanded to test the spirits and in our sin nature, even as Christians, we will misunderstand the spirits and follow after what tickles our ears. This is why we need the scriptures as Fundamantalist pointed out with 2 Timothy 3:16. This is why so many of the other books did not make the cut because they did not line up with the scriptures of the time which was our OT.
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