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Thats the point, to play the exact word game is a dead end argument, thats why scripture must be understood with other scripture and context of salvation ..
That said, then any saving to be, is limited to Gods elect and not all of mankind which includes the devil and his children..for they cant be saved with a fate as this:
Matt 25:
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
For Jesus christ is not their Saviour, I dont care what anyone says..
That's where you and I disagree. I believe we must take it for what it says. Just as with communion. We are told it is fruit of the vine and unleavened bread. That means that is all we can use. Just because it doesn't say we can't use pop and cookies doesn't mean that we can.
PS...Jesus THE Christ would be their Savior, if they would only accept and obey.
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
For Jesus christ is not their Saviour, I dont care what anyone says..
According to your reasoning, beloved, you can't take the word everlasting in this passage as truly meaning everlasting. If you can't accept that world means each and ever person in the world according to the definitions in the passages presented, you can't accept that everlasting means forever, without end here. We have shown that it cannot be because many scriptures show that it doesn't. God bless.
That's where you and I disagree. I believe we must take it for what it says. Just as with communion. We are told it is fruit of the vine and unleavened bread. That means that is all we can use. Just because it doesn't say we can't use pop and cookies doesn't mean that we can.
PS...Jesus THE Christ would be their Savior, if they would only accept and obey.
Jesus christ is the Saviour only of His People, the chosen one..
Matt 1:
21And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Hi, we are all His people. The church is His people today, but ultimately all are His. He has been made heir of all. (Hebrews 1) , no one excluded. He is able to make the "devil's people" His people because He ultimately owns all things and all power belongs to Him. God bless.
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Gods people believe the True Gospel, which includes election of some and reprobation of some before the world began..That Jesus christ saved only a chosen remnant of mankind and the rest are damned..
Hi, we are all His people. The church is His people today, but ultimately all are His. He has been made heir of all. (Hebrews 1) , no one excluded. He is able to make the "devil's people" His people because He ultimately owns all things and all power belongs to Him. God bless.
Only some are Gods people, most people are the devils people on there way to hell..Just as in the days of noah..only a few are saved..
Some are God's people today, beloved, chosen to be the body of Christ, are suppose to be the people of God, but all people are really His. All things were created through Him and for Him (Colossians 1) Jesus has been made heir of all people. (Hebrews 1) God bless.
Some are God's people today, beloved, chosen to be the body of Christ, but all people are His. He created all people and Jesus has been made heir of all people. (Hebrews 1) God bless.
Not all people are Gods people, some belong to the devil..
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