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They say we misrepresent . .. . yet when we say that even Hitler, Stalin and Satan will be saved, the story changes . . . . some URers do not think Satan will be saved . . . . and some URers don't believe in Satan.
Putting Satan aside .. . . there is nothing a person can do on this earth, murder, molest, steal, hate crimes . . . that will stop them from eternal life . . . . . . everyone gets Eternal Life is the message of UR . . .
Salvation is free to ALL . . . . . Period. That's UR in a nutsell, everyone will be granted eternal life . . . .
Lifesigns,
{Aonian} life is continuing life ---- it is not interrupted by judgment and the second death --- what someone reaps they will sow God is not mocked he will righteously judge everyone ----- for all of the pain and suffering that Hitler caused, he will reap it.
What does this verse mean to you?
1Pe 4:5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
1Pe 4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
But most of them do. Sheeesh - why are you doing this? Strange.
Because if one doesn't (such as me) then all must be lumped together.. Finn doesn't seem to care if he misrepresents what people believe or don't believe.... Now about me he is absolutely right, as I don't believe in a horned guy with a pitchfork called satan... but obviously other URers don't feel that way...
Personally I think he's just trying to be combative, but that is JMO.
Because if one doesn't (such as me) then all must be lumped together.. Finn doesn't seem to care if he misrepresents what people believe or don't believe.... Now about me he is absolutely right, as I don't believe in a horned guy with a pitchfork called satan... but obviously other URers don't feel that way...
Personally I think he's just trying to be combative, but that is JMO.
And I suspect that you DO believe in the adversary/opposer, just not the traditional near-almighty devil and the "Helel son of Shahar" myth, right?
You misrepresent UR when you say all will be saved "automatically", or when you say all will be saved without being born again, or when you say all will be saved without believing in Christ.
You said yourself that there is nothing one needs to do in order to get saved. Yes? Then, but definition it is AUTOMATIC. Please look up the definition of the word 'automatic' if you don't know what it means.
And I said the URs don't believe one needs to be born again in this lifetime, which is the same thing as just said above. You believe one does not need to do anything, not even be born again because you believe everyone will be saved after death. It is the CORE UR belief, and a false teaching.
oh so the UR's are the ones that believe that u only accept Jesus as your savior in your deathbed and even if u live like satan on earth, you will automatically be saved.. what do you guys think of Jesus' obvious conflict with the pharisees. so where does atheist go? an atheist who unknowingly follow Christ's teachings in that they love one another as they love themselves, in short they don't believe in Jesus not even in any god but they live like saints. where do they go?
No, they don't think you need to accept Jesus at all in your lifetime. You can live and die like Satan and reject Jesus, but they are still automatically saved after death. It is not a choise: everyone will be saved whether they like it or not.
Because if one doesn't (such as me) then all must be lumped together.. Finn doesn't seem to care if he misrepresents what people believe or don't believe.... Now about me he is absolutely right, as I don't believe in a horned guy with a pitchfork called satan... but obviously other URers don't feel that way...
Personally I think he's just trying to be combative, but that is JMO.
You know, you guys stated something that I had actually given thought to some years ago, but you had put it in very clear terms about the Jewish concept of satan not being a spiritual being. You had some links if I recall. Can you repost? thanx!
No, they don't think you need to accept Jesus at all in your lifetime. You can live and die like Satan and reject Jesus, but they are still automatically saved after death. It is not a choise: everyone will be saved whether they like it or not.
No one accepts Jesus. You receive Jesus when born of the Spirit. And further, no one accepts being born of the Spirit. It's the sovereign work of the Spirit:
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
No one accepts Jesus. You receive Jesus when born of the Spirit. And further, no one accepts being born of the Spirit. It's the sovereign work of the Spirit:
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Your evil arrow bounced off my breast plate and fell harmlessly to the ground.
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Sheeesh - why are you doing this? Strange.
