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Old 12-28-2010, 10:09 PM
 
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So I guess racial stereotypes are the only form of civil right now...

Anywho...

lets discuss the Atlanta Metro.

More ethnically diverse citizens have begun in recent years to immigrate to the county, particularly in the affluent southern portion. However, the racial tension continued to be a part of the county's image into the early 1990s. This was infamously punctuated on January 17, 1987 by a march by civil rights activists in Cumming, and a counterdemonstration by a branch of the Ku Klux Klan, most of whom were not been residents of the county, and others who objected to the march. According to a story published in the New York Times on January 18, four marchers were slightly injured by stones, and bottles were thrown at them. Eight people from the counter-demonstration, all white, were arrested. The charges included trespassing and carrying concealed weapons.
Originally, the march was going to be led by Forsyth resident Charles A. Blackburn. Blackburn wanted to dispel the racist image of Forsyth County, where he owned and operated a private school (The Blackburn Learning Center). Blackburn cancelled his plans after he received threatening phone calls. Other whites in nearby counties, as well as State Representative J.E. McKinney of Atlanta and Hosea Williams, who was on the Atlanta City Council, took up the march plans instead. The following week, January 24, approximately 20,000 civil rights activists marched in Cumming. This occurrence produced no violence, despite the presence of over 5,000 counter-demonstrators, summoned by the Forsyth County Defense League, largely due to the presence of about 2,000 peace officers and national guardsmen. Forsyth County paid $670,000 for police overtime during the political demonstration. There was considerable public outrage at the costs, particularly since most of the demonstrators on both sides were from outside the county. An interview with Forsyth County Sheriff Wesley Walraven, previous to the second march, is available in A Turn in the South by Nobel-prize winning author VS Naipaul.
The demonstration is thought to have been the largest civil rights demonstration in the U.S. since about 1970. The unexpected turnout of some 6,000 counter-demonstrators, sixty-six of whom were arrested for "parading-without-a-permit," turned out to be the largest outpouring opposed to the Civil Rights Bill since the Sixties. The counter-demonstration was called by The Nationalist Movement, newly organized in Cumming, by Mark Watts, a local plumber. The original march had been triggered by an often repeated statement that Forsyth was "a county that warned black visitors not to 'let the sun go down on your head.' " New Georgia Encyclopedia. Marchers arrived on buses from all over the country and formed a caravan from Atlanta, under the watchful eye of National Guard troops on freeway overpasses along the nearly hour-long bus route. When marchers arrived, they discovered that most of the Cumming residents had already left town for the day, and some had boarded up their windows because they feared violence. Marchers wound slowly through streets lined by hundreds of armed National Guards, many of them black. At least two-thirds of the 20,000 civil rights marchers were white, according to eyewitnesses. Forsyth county subsequently charged large fees for parade permits until the practice was overturned in Forsyth County, Georgia v. The Nationalist Movement (505 U.S. 123) in the Supreme Court of the United States on June 19, 1992.



better not wander around too much in the Atlanta metro, might end up in Forsyth County or Alabama.

This is nothing compared to the racial cleansing that went on there in early 20th century though, but wait wasn't that like 60 years after the civil war? oh wait.

You think all those protesters are dead or moved? or didn't have kids? come on now...
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:42 AM
 
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better not wander around too much in the Atlanta metro, might end up in Forsyth County or Alabama.
Why on earth would you say that? Look on the bright side though, there is sure to be plenty of grapico there, just like on C-D.
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Grapico is a caffeine free, artificially flavored carbonated soft drink with a purple color and a grape taste that is sold in the Southeastern United States. In September 1981, both the franchising rights to the Grapico brand name and The Pepsi Bottling Group in Newnan, Georgia were acquired by Buffalo Rock, an independent Pepsi bottler based in Birmingham, Alabama. Grapico is presently produced at Buffalo Rock's Columbus, Georgia bottling facility, Sun Fresh Beverages, Inc.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:04 AM
 
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All of these idiots hating on the south have probably not even lived here before!
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:25 AM
 
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60s to 70s??? Is it really a difference and plus these cities have never been big on enclaves like up north. They all had a gay scene well in the 60s.
There was a huge difference between the 60s and the 70s. The Stonewall riots in NYC were not until 1969. Up to that point they were still routinely raiding gay bars and locking people up for being openly gay, even in hip locations like the Village.

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Old 12-29-2010, 07:38 AM
 
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So I guess racial stereotypes are the only form of civil right now...

Anywho...

lets discuss the Atlanta Metro.

More ethnically diverse citizens have begun in recent years to immigrate to the county, particularly in the affluent southern portion. However, the racial tension continued to be a part of the county's image into the early 1990s. This was infamously punctuated on January 17, 1987 by a march by civil rights activists in Cumming, and a counterdemonstration by a branch of the Ku Klux Klan, most of whom were not been residents of the county, and others who objected to the march. According to a story published in the New York Times on January 18, four marchers were slightly injured by stones, and bottles were thrown at them. Eight people from the counter-demonstration, all white, were arrested. The charges included trespassing and carrying concealed weapons.
Originally, the march was going to be led by Forsyth resident Charles A. Blackburn. Blackburn wanted to dispel the racist image of Forsyth County, where he owned and operated a private school (The Blackburn Learning Center). Blackburn cancelled his plans after he received threatening phone calls. Other whites in nearby counties, as well as State Representative J.E. McKinney of Atlanta and Hosea Williams, who was on the Atlanta City Council, took up the march plans instead. The following week, January 24, approximately 20,000 civil rights activists marched in Cumming. This occurrence produced no violence, despite the presence of over 5,000 counter-demonstrators, summoned by the Forsyth County Defense League, largely due to the presence of about 2,000 peace officers and national guardsmen. Forsyth County paid $670,000 for police overtime during the political demonstration. There was considerable public outrage at the costs, particularly since most of the demonstrators on both sides were from outside the county. An interview with Forsyth County Sheriff Wesley Walraven, previous to the second march, is available in A Turn in the South by Nobel-prize winning author VS Naipaul.
The demonstration is thought to have been the largest civil rights demonstration in the U.S. since about 1970. The unexpected turnout of some 6,000 counter-demonstrators, sixty-six of whom were arrested for "parading-without-a-permit," turned out to be the largest outpouring opposed to the Civil Rights Bill since the Sixties. The counter-demonstration was called by The Nationalist Movement, newly organized in Cumming, by Mark Watts, a local plumber. The original march had been triggered by an often repeated statement that Forsyth was "a county that warned black visitors not to 'let the sun go down on your head.' " New Georgia Encyclopedia. Marchers arrived on buses from all over the country and formed a caravan from Atlanta, under the watchful eye of National Guard troops on freeway overpasses along the nearly hour-long bus route. When marchers arrived, they discovered that most of the Cumming residents had already left town for the day, and some had boarded up their windows because they feared violence. Marchers wound slowly through streets lined by hundreds of armed National Guards, many of them black. At least two-thirds of the 20,000 civil rights marchers were white, according to eyewitnesses. Forsyth county subsequently charged large fees for parade permits until the practice was overturned in Forsyth County, Georgia v. The Nationalist Movement (505 U.S. 123) in the Supreme Court of the United States on June 19, 1992.



better not wander around too much in the Atlanta metro, might end up in Forsyth County or Alabama.

This is nothing compared to the racial cleansing that went on there in early 20th century though, but wait wasn't that like 60 years after the civil war? oh wait.

You think all those protesters are dead or moved? or didn't have kids? come on now...
What's your point? What was posting this wall of text supposed to prove.
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:41 AM
 
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What's your point? What was posting this wall of text supposed to prove.
Absolutely NOTHING.
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:54 AM
 
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So I guess racial stereotypes are the only form of civil right now...

Anywho...

lets discuss the Atlanta Metro.

More ethnically diverse citizens have begun in recent years to immigrate to the county, particularly in the affluent southern portion. However, the racial tension continued to be a part of the county's image into the early 1990s. This was infamously punctuated on January 17, 1987 by a march by civil rights activists in Cumming, and a counterdemonstration by a branch of the Ku Klux Klan, most of whom were not been residents of the county, and others who objected to the march. According to a story published in the New York Times on January 18, four marchers were slightly injured by stones, and bottles were thrown at them. Eight people from the counter-demonstration, all white, were arrested. The charges included trespassing and carrying concealed weapons.
Originally, the march was going to be led by Forsyth resident Charles A. Blackburn. Blackburn wanted to dispel the racist image of Forsyth County, where he owned and operated a private school (The Blackburn Learning Center). Blackburn cancelled his plans after he received threatening phone calls. Other whites in nearby counties, as well as State Representative J.E. McKinney of Atlanta and Hosea Williams, who was on the Atlanta City Council, took up the march plans instead. The following week, January 24, approximately 20,000 civil rights activists marched in Cumming. This occurrence produced no violence, despite the presence of over 5,000 counter-demonstrators, summoned by the Forsyth County Defense League, largely due to the presence of about 2,000 peace officers and national guardsmen. Forsyth County paid $670,000 for police overtime during the political demonstration. There was considerable public outrage at the costs, particularly since most of the demonstrators on both sides were from outside the county. An interview with Forsyth County Sheriff Wesley Walraven, previous to the second march, is available in A Turn in the South by Nobel-prize winning author VS Naipaul.
The demonstration is thought to have been the largest civil rights demonstration in the U.S. since about 1970. The unexpected turnout of some 6,000 counter-demonstrators, sixty-six of whom were arrested for "parading-without-a-permit," turned out to be the largest outpouring opposed to the Civil Rights Bill since the Sixties. The counter-demonstration was called by The Nationalist Movement, newly organized in Cumming, by Mark Watts, a local plumber. The original march had been triggered by an often repeated statement that Forsyth was "a county that warned black visitors not to 'let the sun go down on your head.' " New Georgia Encyclopedia. Marchers arrived on buses from all over the country and formed a caravan from Atlanta, under the watchful eye of National Guard troops on freeway overpasses along the nearly hour-long bus route. When marchers arrived, they discovered that most of the Cumming residents had already left town for the day, and some had boarded up their windows because they feared violence. Marchers wound slowly through streets lined by hundreds of armed National Guards, many of them black. At least two-thirds of the 20,000 civil rights marchers were white, according to eyewitnesses. Forsyth county subsequently charged large fees for parade permits until the practice was overturned in Forsyth County, Georgia v. The Nationalist Movement (505 U.S. 123) in the Supreme Court of the United States on June 19, 1992.



better not wander around too much in the Atlanta metro, might end up in Forsyth County or Alabama.

This is nothing compared to the racial cleansing that went on there in early 20th century though, but wait wasn't that like 60 years after the civil war? oh wait.

You think all those protesters are dead or moved? or didn't have kids? come on now...
And? Did you even READ what this long diatribe actually stated? Perhaps instead of just copying and pasting, you should actually read what it states. S L O W L Y.

Like how the KKK instigators were not from Forsyth County? The original protesters arrested were not from Georgia, but Mississippi.

Did you somehow miss the fact that at least two thirds of the subsequent civil rights marchers at the second protest were white? I was one of them, bub.

What exactly are you attempting to twist this into? Or is this just more Tallahassee shame coming through loud and clear?

It would appear that you will stop at nothing to disparage this place, which happens to be the cradle of the freaking Civil Rights movement.

Get a clue, educate yourself a little in the process, and channel your hatred elsewhere.
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:57 AM
 
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And? Did you even READ what this long diatribe actually stated? Perhaps instead of just copying and pasting, you should actually read what it states. S L O W L Y.

Like how the KKK instigators were not from Forsyth County? The original protesters arrested were not grom Georgia, but Mississippi.

Did you somehow miss the fact that at least two thirds of the subsequent civil rights marchers at the second protest were white? I was one of them, bub.

What exactly are you attempting to twist this into? Or is this just more Tallahassee shame coming through loud and clear?

It would appear that you will stop at nothing to disparage this place, which happens to be the cradle of the freaking Civil Rights movement.

Get a clue, educate yourself a little in the process, and channel your hatred elsewhere.
This is what they do when they lose an argument. They derail the conversation and bring up BS.

He went from sodomy, to the gay rights movement and now to bringing up this old ass news and trying to throw it around as if its fresh.

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Old 12-29-2010, 11:31 AM
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR_QR...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byOtx...eature=related

these are bad, but not normal, but you deserve it for going off.

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This is what they do when they lose an argument. They derail the conversation and bring up BS.

He went from sodomy, to the gay rights movement and now to bringing up this old ass news and trying to throw it around as if its fresh.
they are all civil rights. shameful for you

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Did I really????

What does sodomy and gay neighborhoods have to do with Racial stereotypes??? Is being Gay a race??? Didn't think so.

johnatl just sits there and nods his head when he is gay himself. According to historian Jluke, he would be getting stoned and lynched.
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These cities are all about equal when it comes to being able to live a happy gay lifestyle. You'd have a point if Houston or Atlanta was still lynching gays or stoning them
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All I know about is Montrose is Houston and Oak Lawn in Dallas. I can't tell you about Atlanta, but ATL "downlow" scene started becoming very prominent during the Motown era.
he calls the gay scene the down low scene.

[quote=jluke65780;17170758
I don't see anything awarding about making a neighborhood in honor of gays. It just keeps segregation going strong.

.[/quote]
gay neighborhoods keeping segregation strong

But atl posters call me a racist and that I hate poor people when I point out that affluent in atlanta have a stigma about riding MARTA still which is backed up in raw data. Pleaseeee. It's only a select few though, so no big deal.


jluke, you probably don't know better, johnatl does though.

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Old 12-30-2010, 01:12 AM
 
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WOW @ complete lack of history knowledge. Holy crap dude. Yeah Chicago had gay neighborhood in the 60s when people in the south were still spraying people with water hoses. GTFO. How about colored drinking fountains? How about you had sodomy laws on the books THIS DECADE. Not racial but all in the same ball park. Do you really wanna go there?

"The north has never really addressed the race issues in its region"

oh my.
I try to be cool with you but here are again claiming to be fair but more fair and balance like Faux News is "fair and balanced".
How you gonna call somebody else for stuff you dont even know anout the place you live in!!Not to mention old news thats relevant today!You kep bringing up race,but Atlanta is in may opinion is much further along in positive race relations than Chicago.Yes you CAN QUOTE ME ON THAT!!I thought I set you staright in the other thread that YOU NEVeR HAD A REPLY FOR.How CONVENIENT for YOU.

Guess I'll repost it here since you ignored it in the other post and then changed the subject and started and argument with another poster about how MARTA is SO black and how no white people ride it.
Sure keep trying.Something is bound to stick sooner or later....

Here it is

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YES I DID AND I STAND BY THAT STATEMENT!!!In context it was answer to that posters (u and others as well)insistence that Chicago was more liberal based on racism and conservatism"ts called sufficeint effidence to draw a likely conclusion.A hypothesis of sort because really it is a question based on OPINION.What kind of test would you like to prove thats not true.Even if you quoe reasons for your argument,its still just and OPINION not fact.

For you who I thought was more intelligent,could at least know the differect between the two.

Here in qick form are just a handlful of reasons:
Chicago is the most segregated major city in the U.S.
This is evidenced by this issue of Rae in Chicago
Chicago is America’s Most Segregated City*|*The Chicago 77

Census: Black Segregation At Lowest Point In Century - 11Alive.com | WXIA | Atlanta, GA


Atlanta is ranked one of the top cities for eco friendly policies:
.
Atlanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also People like Henry W.Grady(1850-1889) ,Orator and Spokesman for the "New South"who coined and promoted Atlanta without slavery and help gave birth to Georgia Tech in efforts to continue the move from a agrarian city.

Ivan Allen Jr-The only mayor from the "Deep South" that testified in front of Congress on National T.V. IN favor of the pending National Civil Rights legislation.

Atlanta had one of the nations oldest and most sucessful history of black communities in America after Harlem.
This was said about MLK JR:

.
Not very LIBERAL of Chicago huh?

Waits its more:

Oh and the Great Mayor Dailey Sr?READ:
Chicago History -- Racism

http://www.city-data.com/forum/chica...chicago-2.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/17158868-post495.html
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