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I agree. Chicagoans shouldn't be whining about their status and comparing the city with NYC and LA. It is a great city on its own.
I don't think a Chicagoan started this thread. I certainly don't feel Chicago is always in the shadow of NYC and L.A. Every city has it own place and Chicago holds its place just fine.
Its not like Chicago is a film industry powerhouse, but LA gets all the attention. Or Chicago is a high fashion design capital, but NYC gets all the attention.
The cities aren't even in the same region. NYC doesn't overshadow L.A., L.A. doesn't overshadow Chicago, Chicago doesn't overshadow Houston, and so on and so on.
If you go by the GaWC rankings which people on C-D seem to pop a boner for, there are at least 18 cities ranked higher than Chicago GaWC - The World According to GaWC 2008
so let's see. Do I go with the city data dude, code name LiveFrom215, or the people who actually conducted a real study? Um I go with the "experts". No offense dude.
I don't think a Chicagoan started this thread. I certainly don't feel Chicago is always in the shadow of NYC and L.A. Every city has it own place and Chicago holds its place just fine.
Its not like Chicago is a film industry powerhouse, but LA gets all the attention. Or Chicago is a high fashion design capital, but NYC gets all the attention.
The cities aren't even in the same region. NYC doesn't overshadow L.A., L.A. doesn't overshadow Chicago, Chicago doesn't overshadow Houston, and so on and so on.
If you go by the GaWC rankings which people on C-D seem to pop a boner for, there are at least 18 cities ranked higher than Chicago GaWC - The World According to GaWC 2008
so let's see. Do I go with the city data dude, code name LiveFrom215, or the people who actually conducted a real study? Um I go with the "experts". No offense dude.
Hmmm...interesting. Both NYC and LA rank above Chi-town.
If you go by the GaWC rankings which people on C-D seem to pop a boner for, there are at least 18 cities ranked higher than Chicago GaWC - The World According to GaWC 2008
so let's see. Do I go with the city data dude, code name LiveFrom215, or the people who actually conducted a real study? Um I go with the "experts". No offense dude.
I suppose.
First of all, I am soooo not the city data dude....I am sitting in my living room, in Philly wearing slippers, chilling. I don't have a dog in this fight; but in my opinion Chicago is a great world city. I didn't say NYC or LA weren't....just that Chicago was.
One can quote stats all day. Some studies put Chicago ahead of LA in some areas, LA ahead of Chi in others, and NYC ahead of everybody in just about everything.
Here's a breakdown from Loughborough University, United Kingdom:
Alpha World Cities ++:
New York City, London
Alpha World Cities +:
Hong Kong, Paris, Singapore, Sydney, Tokyo, Shanghai, Beijing
Alpha World Cities:
Milan, Madrid, Seoul, Moscow, Brussels, Toronto, Mumbai, Buenos Aires, Kuala Lumpur
Alpha World Cities –:
Warsaw, São Paulo, Jakarta, Zurich, Mexico City, Dublin, Amsterdam, Bangkok, Taipei, Rome, Istanbul, Lisbon, Chicago, Frankfurt, Stockholm, Vienna, Budapest, Athens, Prague, Caracas, Auckland, Santiago
Beta World Cities +:
Melbourne, Barcelona, Los Angeles, Johannesburg, Manila, Bogota, New Delhi, Atlanta, Washington D.C., Tel Aviv, Bucharest, San Francisco, Helsinki, Berlin, Dubai, Oslo, Geneva, Riyadh, Copenhagen, Hamburg, Cairo
As you can see Chi comes out an Alpha Class Global City in this study; LA as a Beta. I am certain one could find other surveys where the reverse is true. Which kind of proves my point. In the end these things are largely subjective.
But anyone who claims Chicago isn't one of the most important cities in America, and the world is ignoring reality.
Dude. We didnt need a 3 minute long post to know that Chicago is an important city...mostly to the midwest.
I don't think anyone here claimed that Chicago isn't important. What you said was that New York and L.A. rank very slighty above Chicago as a global city. Guys on city data do not rank global cities. No offense to you or your slippers.
I love Philly by the way. Always have a great time when I am there. The people are great!
Chicago lost the 2016 Olympic bid to Rio and didn't get selected as a 2018-22 World Cup host cities, yet LA hosted 2 Olympics, and one world cup, and is in the running for another world cup in 2018-20.
In my opinion, both New York & Chicago are "old" cities & not that unlike from each other [ie. cold climates\ traditional\ vertical]. Los Angeles isn't any of those things.
Dude. We didnt need a 3 minute long post to know that Chicago is an important city. I don't think anyone here claimed that Chicago isn't. What you said was that New York and L.A. rank very slighty above Chicago as a global city. Guys on city data do not rank global cities. No offense to you or your slippers.
I love Philly by the way. Always have a great time when I am there. The people are great!
My slipppers and I appreciate your concern, and hope you will allow us to clarify;
I had assumed perhaps in error, that everybody knows that New York is the Big Dog for so many obvious reaons that I won't even bother to go into.
Perhaps I should have been more clear that LA and Chicago were neck and neck for the duece spot among American cities. Neither of them are NYC....but no place is. Which city is the more prominent between LA/Chi depends on how you crunch the numbers (and which one you prefer, I suppose) But it's close.
That better?
PS: Philly loves you right back
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