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But you can ask the same question about any one of these large scale city plans until it's done. I doubt it will be exactly as depicted, but things are happening. If the momentum continues then we'll be seeing at least a version.
But you can ask the same question about any one of these large scale city plans until it's done. I doubt it will be exactly as depicted, but things are happening. If the momentum continues then we'll be seeing at least a version.
Hopefully Philly's does.
Boston's SS project is underway now, and I guess we will find out if the 3 million square foot projects will benefit it or not lol
I think it's great that south station project is underway; it was a long time coming. I'm pretty sure I read about it 15 years ago, maybe more. The 30th street district plan was announced a few years ago, so I'm willing to wait.
It's 1.9 million square feet of completed development which is a little less as the one that is still down in the pipeline in DC.
When the DC one is finished in about 5-10 years we will see the magnitude it has on the area. But for now, we cannot speculate since every major project in every major city gets VE'd. Visions are great, but when the shovel hits the ground then only would be fair to compare. IIRC, the development in DC just last month went under a huge revision back to the drawing to remove car-centric, and mediate taffic concerns. Its far from a solid plan. In 2016 before the shovel hit the ground for Hub On Causeway, it was 2.75 million square feet before finally getting trimmed to what it is now. Only about 525 feet tall, but the ground level is impeccable.
Burnham Place will be around 4 million sq. feet of development. They aren’t really similar. Their footprints are substantially different. Burnham Place in DC will be a neighborhood with multiple blocks. What exists in Boston is very nice, but not comparable in size.
Burnham Place will be around 4 million sq. feet of development. They aren’t really similar. Their footprints are substantially different. Burnham Place in DC will be a neighborhood with multiple blocks. What exists in Boston is very nice, but not comparable in size.
Oh neighborhood. Im talking cheifly on top/inside the train station. Not around it.
But if we open that door, still, Again hard to say at all. Its not even approved at the current design. Il check back in 5 years from now, but for now, I have to, unfortunately, void it off. The previous design looks nice though!
Oh neighborhood. Im talking cheifly on top/inside the train station. Not around it.
But if we open that door, still, Again hard to say at all. Its not even approved at the current design. Il check back in 5 years from now, but for now, I have to, unfortunately, void it off. The previous design looks nice though!
Correct, the deck hasn’t been built which will hold the neighborhood. The entire development is being built on currently exposed tracks. On a side note, everything the DC government wants built in DC proper gets built. If the city prioritized it, it will be built eventually. DC controls everything related to development within its borders.
Union Station, NYC Penn Station, and Grand Central station are in a completely different class within their stations so that’s not even up for debate.
Union Staion in DC is just a bigger nicer South Station in Boston. If Boston had a union station and not a North and South , it would be equivalent to DC’s union station.
I think saying South Station is better than North Station isn't defacto wrong because don't even know what technically is north station or what it looks like, it's just a big mix of things. Feels like part subway stop, part td garden, part indoor, part outdoor. I don't don't know technically is north station at this point.
Union Staion in DC is just a bigger nicer South Station in Boston. If Boston had a union station and not a North and South , it would be equivalent to DC’s union station.
I think saying South Station is better than North Station isn't defacto wrong because don't even know what technically is north station or what it looks like, it's just a big mix of things. Feels like part subway stop, part td garden, part indoor, part outdoor. I don't don't know technically is north station at this point.
North Station has an identity crisis. That is very true.
I didn't know Skidmore, Owings & Merrill was in on the 30th Street Station district plan.
Brandywine Realty Trust, the commercial developer who will ultimately be responsible for making much of what you see in that rendering a reality, is already on the way towards producing the first new building in its development, Schuylkill Yards. Brandywine has its own master architect in charge of its development (here's what I wrote about it when the formal announcement was made in 2016).
The interesting thing is, at least conceptually, what SOM envisions and what Brandywine envisions via SHoP Architects doesn't differ all that much. The big difference is, the 30th Street Station District encompasses a larger territory than Schuylkill Yards does: I believe the ultimate goal is still to develop the air rights over Amtrak/SEPTA's Powelton Yard, immediately to the northwest of the station and to the north of Brandywine's Schuylkill Yards project.
The end result at buildout will be a second downtown for Philadelphia, one that links the original downtown with the universities to its west. I'm definitely looking forward to its evolution. It's gonna be huge.
massachoicetts: of course, a project of this scope could fail to be fully realized. But Brandywine is in this for the long haul.
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