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Everything.
Complete nightlife options.
No other area is as live and Work.
Austin is lacking in this area in comparison. Well not just Austin
Austin nightlife is very centralized around downtown. Pretty much all of 6th street has nightlife. Rainey St, Red River, Warehouse district, East Caesar Chavez, etc. Regardless of where people live, the culture is to go downtown (or the immediate adjacent neighborhoods) for nightlife.
That was my point. Obviously New Orleans is the much more urban core from a residential perspective. (It's one of the oldest cities in the country).
Ehh, I wouldn't go that far. Boston is obviously one of the nation's most urban cities but its nightlife is a bit sleepy.
When it comes to NOLA's downtown core, its nightlife significantly caters to tourists whereas surrounding neighborhoods cater to locals. I'd say downtown Austin is many more times "work and live" than downtown NOLA as many folks working the high-paying jobs in downtown Austin can afford and often prefer to live in downtown where they have a bunch of choices. That's not the situation in the downtown core of New Orleans or it exists on a much smaller level.
Many people who live in downtown New Orleans also work downtown. Why wouldn't they be the case? Or am I misunderstanding that.
Ehh, I wouldn't go that far. Boston is obviously one of the nation's most urban cities but its nightlife is a bit sleepy.
When it comes to NOLA's downtown core, its nightlife significantly caters to tourists whereas surrounding neighborhoods cater to locals. I'd say downtown Austin is many more times "work and live" than downtown NOLA as many folks working the high-paying jobs in downtown Austin can afford and often prefer to live in downtown where they have a bunch of choices. That's not the situation in the downtown core of New Orleans or it exists on a much smaller level.
Honestly, construction of downtown condos has been a hindrance to nightlife. Generally, the downtown nightlife districts started because the rent was cheap. Demand for condos and offices drives the prices up and brings in noise complaints. For example the Warehouse district has been largely concerted to high rises office and condo towers. Rainey St. will entirely skyscrapers within a decade. The music venues in red river are probably only hanging around because of the nearby homeless shelter (and we'll see what happens after COVID.)
That said, losses downtown have largely been made up in still-central areas like the east side, south lamar, etc.
Louisiana does have a different culture than the rest of the south and that shows in the partying. That doesn't make it the best for me. I think that Atlanta has more variety and much more and better nightlife overall. I can only suspect that would be true for other big cities like Dallas and Houston.
This is true. But still, in New Orleans, it’s non stop. You don’t get the variety of themed clubs and venues that you get in those three, but I mean New Orleans you can buy alcohol 24/7 and there’s always something open. The fact NOLA has a casino (urban casino at that) also gives it points.
This is true. But still, in New Orleans, it’s non stop. You don’t get the variety of themed clubs and venues that you get in those three, but I mean New Orleans you can buy alcohol 24/7 and there’s always something open. The fact NOLA has a casino (urban casino at that) also gives it points.
You can buy alcohol 24/7 in parts of Florida and South Carolina too
Many people who live in downtown New Orleans also work downtown. Why wouldn't they be the case? Or am I misunderstanding that.
Well of course and that's the case for any city. But the growth factor sets Austin apart here. The aesthetic of its burgeoning skyline makes it obvious too. I know we're talking about two fundamentally different cities here but this particular quality (live/work factor) isn't one that can be automatically handed to NOLA because it's older although that would be the case when compared to most other Southern cities.
Honestly, construction of downtown condos has been a hindrance to nightlife. Generally, the downtown nightlife districts started because the rent was cheap. Demand for condos and offices drives the prices up and brings in noise complaints. For example the Warehouse district has been largely concerted to high rises office and condo towers. Rainey St. will entirely skyscrapers within a decade. The music venues in red river are probably only hanging around because of the nearby homeless shelter (and we'll see what happens after COVID.)
That said, losses downtown have largely been made up in still-central areas like the east side, south lamar, etc.
This is a big reason why nightlife had been on a downturn in growing urban cores all over the country prior to this year, but I was specifically addressing the live/work quality itself and not necessarily how they tie into nightlife. A Southern city more similar to New Orleans in terms of built environment like Richmond also serves as a counterexample with solid nightlife but not exactly one that's been frequently mentioned throughout the thread.
Well of course and that's the case for any city. But the growth factor sets Austin apart here. The aesthetic of its burgeoning skyline makes it obvious too. I know we're talking about two fundamentally different cities here but this particular quality (live/work factor) isn't one that can be automatically handed to NOLA because it's older although that would be the case when compared to most other Southern cities.
I'm still struggling to understand your point. The live/work qualities of New Orleans aren't automatic due to lack of growth and being an older city? What is a live/work factor anyway? Is this factor automatic in Austin due to it being recent growth?
They seem to have similar downtown populations.
Austin's core is good compared to some in the south but it's no way near as complete as NOLA. NOLA doesn't need an influx of new residents to have a built up core as its core has been built up for 200 years. That's why NOLA'S core feels more urban. There's thinks to do spreading out in multiple directions around downtown.
Austin has things to do too, but it's sporadic.
I think comments here are very familiar with downtown but sleep on the rest of the city.
Even Uptown, which is right across from the quarter is slept on here. People saying that nightlife in NOLA is one dimensional clearly spend all their time on Bourbon.
The nightlife in The quarter is charmingly a NOLA brand but venturing out into the surrounding neighborhoods you find similar scenes to those in Atlanta, Houston, Dallas etc.
And Idk why people think locals don't avail themselves of the nightlife around the core. I will grant you that the majority of people on Bourbon are visitors, but to say nightlife in NOLA is relegated to Bourbon is not knowing NOLA very well.
FYI, I consider areas like Mid city, Warehouse District, Marigny, Tulane... As NOLA'S core. I would even add the garden district for its popular restaurants and Irish Channel for its industrial feel. For the same reason I consider areas like Bishop Arts, Deep Ellum, Montrose, Houston Heights etc as core neighborhoods.
Taking the trolley down St Charles is usually a pain, but try the one along Canal and you will see the uninterrupted charm of the live, work and play neighborhoods that I'm taking about.
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