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View Poll Results: Los Angeles vs. San Francisco
Los Angeles 132 38.26%
San Francisco 213 61.74%
Voters: 345. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-19-2007, 04:38 PM
 
Location: City of Angels
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Originally Posted by donjuan View Post
America's 30 Most Visited Cities

1. Las Vegas, Nev.
38.9 million visitors; 40 million rooms sold. Total weighted score: 4.48
2. Los Angeles, Calif.
58.6 million (25.4 million overnight + 33.2 estimated day visitors); 25.5 million
rooms sold; score: 4.22
3. Orlando, Fla.
47.8 million visitors; 27.2 million rooms sold; score: 3.90
4. New York City, N.Y.
44 million visitors; 23.9 million rooms sold; score: 3.52
5. Chicago, Ill.
41.3 million (2005); 24.8 million rooms sold; score 3.47
6. Washington, D.C. metro area
36.9 million; 22.8 million rooms; score: 3.15
7. Atlanta, Ga.
37 million visitors; 21.5 million rooms sold; score: 3.05
8. San Diego, Calif.
32.2 million visitors (2005); 14.2 million rooms sold; score: 2.33
9. Houston, TX
31 million; 14.5 million rooms sold; score: 2.31
10. Dallas, TX
22.3 million visitors (2005); 15.9 million rooms sold; score: 2.05
11. Philadelphia, Pa.
27.7 million (2005); 10.2 million rooms sold; score: 1.86
12. Phoenix, Ariz.
21.7 million (12 million overnight plus 9.7 estimated day visitors); 13.1 million rooms sold; score: 1.75
13. Anaheim, Calif.
18.4 million visitors; 13.9 million rooms sold; score 1.61 (tie)
13. San Francisco, Calif.
15.8 million visitors; 13.4 million rooms sold; score: 1.61 (tie)

13. Miami, Fla.
19.7 million (11.6 million overnight + 8.1 estimated day visitors): 11.2 million rooms sold; score: 1.61 (tie)
16. Boston, Mass.
17.6 million (2005); 11.7 million rooms sold; score 1.56
17. San Antonio, TX
20 million; 8.3 million rooms sold; score: 1.41
18. St. Louis, Mo.
20.3 million visitors; 7.9 million rooms sold; score: 1.39
19. Tampa Bay, Fla.
16.9 million visitors; 9.6 million rooms sold; score: 1.38
20. Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minn.
18.3 million visitors; 8.3 million rooms sold; score: 1.34
21. Seattle, Wash.
15.7 million (9.4 million overnight visitors + 6.3 estimated day visitors); 9.4 million rooms sold; score: 1.32
22. Indianapolis, Ind.
21.7 million visitors (2005); 6 million rooms sold; score: 1.31
23. Detroit, Mich.
15.9 million visitors; 8.3 million rooms sold; score: 1.24
24. Austin, TX
19 million visitors; 6.4 million rooms sold; score: 1.23
25. Denver, Colo.
14.5 million (11.7 million overnight visitors + 2.8 estimated day visitors); 8.7 million rooms sold; score: 1.22
26. Charlotte, N.C.
16.6 million visitors (2005); 6.9 million rooms sold; score: 1.17
27. Nashville, Tenn.
13.5 million (10.5 million overnight visitors + 3 million estimated day visitors); 8 million rooms sold; score: 1.12 (tie)
27. Kansas City, Mo.-Kan.
16.5 million visitors; 6.3 million rooms sold; score: 1.12 (tie)
29. Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
12.3 million (10.4 million overnight visitors + 1.9 estimated day visitors); 7 million rooms sold; score: 1.00
30. Baltimore, Md.
12 million visitors; 6.6 million rooms sold; score: 0.99
This is the definitive list that's been most recently published when listing number of actual visitors to a city. I think most people trust Forbes and their calculations over some obscure, random, no name, company that "downtown1" found on the Internet.

 
Old 09-19-2007, 04:39 PM
 
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More illegal aliens are coming to LA to feel closer to home...don't forget that !!

Hispanics are the majority in LA and that's why the city of Lost Angeles is such a great place to start small business. Big business will be handled in places like New York, Chicago, SF, Boston..etc



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hahhaa facts. i seen the same thing, people from all over the world is moving to LA or NY but i didnt see that in the chicago forum. more people is moving out
 
Old 09-19-2007, 04:40 PM
 
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Been to both, and LA has not that much to offer, for me. San Fran, love the area, city, food, people, nightlife, etc.

wow san fran has a better nightlife than LA
 
Old 09-19-2007, 04:42 PM
 
Location: City of Angels
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More illegal aliens are coming to LA to feel closer to home...don't forget that !!

Hispanics are the majority in LA and that's why the city of Lost Angeles is such a great place to start small business. Big business will be handled in places like New York, Chicago, SF, Boston..etc
Oh please. Stop your racist, Latino bashing. Good heavens.
 
Old 09-19-2007, 04:44 PM
 
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Field Museum of Natural History

Museum of Science and Industry

Chicago Art Museum

Adler Planetarium

Navy Pier

John Hancock Observatory

Sears Tower Observatory

Seadog lakefront skyline cruise

Architectural tour on the Chicago River

Chicago Symphony Orchestra

Visit the dozens of live theatres (Second City, Steppenwolf, Goodman, etc)

Millenium Park

Grant Park

Oak Street Beach

Magnificent Mile shopping (best shopping corridor in the USA)

Oak Street shopping

China Town

Germantown

Wrigley Field (Cubs)

US Cellular Field (White Sox)

United Center (Bulls and Blackhawks)

Soldier Field (Bears)

Civic Opera House

House of Blues

The 10,000 (get your mind over that!) restaurants in the downtown area.

Buckingham Fountain

Stock Exchange

Visit the Palmer House, Four Seasons, Hotel Intercontinental, Drake Hotel, etc

Bahai Temple

Brookfield Zoo

Lincoln Park Zoo

Chicago Cultural Center

Lincoln Park Conservatory

Chicago Botanical Garden

Chicago ArchiCenter

And Im just scratching the surface. Now I know its hard for LA folks to comprehend what a dynamic downtown is, but hopefully this will give you a slight clue.



Now, what can you do in downtown LA? Eat at Maria Villalobos' Taco Stand?

lol u call that a list try LA list.

Try these things to see in L.A.---Have Fun----->>>>>>>>>>>>

1.Eat at Pinks or Pinkberry or In and Out burger
2.Farmers Market at the Grove
(@ Fairfax and W. 3rd)
3.See a movie at Graumin’s Chinese theater
4.Griffith Observatory, note--reservations now required
5.Getty Museum in town off 405 (reservations)
6.Getty Villa Malibu (reservations)
7.Norton Simon Museum (Pasadena)
8.Hollywood Bowl concerts (arrange parking first)
9.Walk of Fame/Stars (3 ½ miles round trip<warning—lol)
10.Rodeo Drive, (via Rodeo)-walking Rodeo
11.Trolley tours of star homes, Hollywood or downtown
12.Ivy, Kitson (on N. Robertson) , Hotel Marmont, the new Spago
13.Santa Monica pier (Pacific Park) and promanade, ride ferris wheel, kiddieland, Ivy by the sea…Fred Segal ii…dinosaur/arbors…
14.Bycycling Venice Beach (street performers, muscle beach)
15.Catalina Island (concerts) (catamaran to Avalon) out of Long Beach or Newport beach..the casino.
service now available out of Marina del Rey….
16. Studio tour (Universal/City Walk or Warner Bros.)
17.check out Disney, Dreamworks, Paramount, NBC
18. Dodger stadium baseball game
19.Downtown L.A.-Lummis house, Angels flight
20.Club at Hyde, Area, Teddy’s, Priviledge, Les Deux, Parc, Mood
Skybar, Roxy, Tryst, Whiskey (a-go-go), The Spyder Club,
The Viper Room, House of Blues.
21.Beverly Hilton, Trader Vics, Sparkles
22.Beverly Hills City Hall and Fritelli’s donuts (Canon Dr., BH)
23.Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf + Tito tacos (Culver City)
24.Huntington Beach Surfing and Surf Museum
(they spend a lot of time and money on constant activities)
25. Disneyland (Anaheim)
26.Knotts Berry Farm, 6 Flags/Magic Mountain
27.Lebrea Tar Pits and Page Museum on Wilshire
28.Lakers basketball- Staples arena
29.L.A. Open at Riviera Country Club
30. L.A. Equestrian Center
31.Big Bear skiing
32.Palm Springs golf and tram ride
33.River Walk and L.A. River Gardens
34.Eat at Mr. Chow’s or Koi or Yamashiro
35.Visit Zuma beach, pier at Malibu and Paradise Cove
36.Foose Design and Huntington Beach boardwalk
37.Aquarium of the Pacific (Long Beach) and Queen Mary ii
38.Los Angeles zoo (parking site for Griffith Observatory/Hollywood Bowl)
39.Gene Autrey western museum + Travel Town (railroad museum)
40.Hike up Mt. Lee and visit Bronson (Batman) caves
41. USC. UCLA football, LA Colusium or Rose Bowl
42.Petersen Auto Museum (car “rallys” from Huntington Beach)
43.Hollywood Park race track
44.Dana Point whale watching (75 milles south)
45.San Simeon (250 miles north)
46.Huntington library and gardens (San Marino)
47.Hollywood Wax Museum and Kodak Theater tour
48.Drive Mullholland Drive
49.Ripley’s Believe It or Not Museum (across from wax museum)
50.Commerce Casino Club, Commerce, CA.
51.Santa Anita race track, and L.A.. Botanic Gardens -Arcadia, CA.
52.Fred Segal
53.Redondo Beach and Pier
54.Beverly Hills Hotel, Polo Lounge
55.Bicycle Club Casino (Bell Gardens, CA.)
56.Mt. Wilson observatory-(UCLA astronomy-Cal. Rt #2))
57.Hollywood sign hike and pics, L.A.pics
58.Beach bonfire—monthy special
(free wood and hotdogs)
59.Drive on Pismo Beach-mention u saw this ad...lol
60.Helicopter tour of L.A..(cheaper than you think and cool too)
61.Gondola ride at Naples Island (Alimitos Bay)
62. Renaissance Festival
63. Haunted Hollywood Tour
64. China town, Korea town
65. Rockwalk
66. Graumans Egyptian Theater
67. Melrose Trading Post (Saturdays only)
68 El Capitan Theater
69. Dominator ship wreck hike
70. Tilmann Japanese garden (San Fernando Valley)
71. Little Tokyo
72.Fashion district-(11th St. + Santee))L.A. Fashion week (bargains)
73. Volley ball and tournaments (Huntington Beach)
74. San Bernadino Route 66 classic car show (Sept.13-16)
75. Descanso Gardens (La Canada)
76. Exposition Park (USC)
77. Brand Park/Glendale library
78. Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles Diner
79. Canter’s Deli or The Pantry
80. Museum of Tolerance
81. Eat at Mortons (Pam is closing at the end of the year)
82. LACMA
83. San Antonio and Temecula winery tours
84. Lake Arrowhead
85. Malibu ocean kayaking (also at Mothers beach- Marina del Rey)
86. Hike Joshua Tree National Park
87. Horse back riding (in the Santa Monica mountains)

Activities under probationary consideration---lol


A. water parks-hurricane harbor, soak city, raging rivers
B. l.a barhopper mystery bus
C. mission san fernando, mission hills (north 5/405 intersection)
D. papa christo’s thursday greek dinner (pico/normandie)
E. up coming in 2 months- 2 special cool things-but i want to try them first-
before there is a huge line…

futurecop=
 
Old 09-19-2007, 04:57 PM
 
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Obscure, no name? thanks for a good joke. Keep believing in the BS list from Forbes cuz none of the tourism rankings in US is based on Forbes Traveler site. Every week they come out with a top 10 list. As I have repeated many times, Forbes is not a travel research company like DKS&A. PERIOD.

LA ranks #7 according to DKS&A and I think its high already.


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This is the definitive list that's been most recently published when listing number of actual visitors to a city. I think most people trust Forbes and their calculations over some obscure, random, no name, company that "downtown1" found on the Internet.
 
Old 09-19-2007, 05:04 PM
 
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1. Different sources give different statistics.

2. These don't reflect why people visit a place. Do you really think more people choose to visit cities like Houston, Dallas and Phoenix over San Francisco? Doubtful. Most likely they are up there as a result of business/family travel...not tourism.


uh yes, maybe bcuz they have a larger population than san fran and their familes would go visit them.
 
Old 09-19-2007, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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lol u call that a list try LA list.

Try these things to see in L.A.---Have Fun----->>>>>>>>>>>>

[b]1.Eat at Pinks or Pinkberry or In and Out burger
You seriously listed In N Out burger? Thats pathetically rediculous.
 
Old 09-19-2007, 05:11 PM
 
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You seriously listed In N Out burger? Thats pathetically rediculous.

it was copied and pasted from another site
 
Old 09-19-2007, 05:18 PM
 
Location: City of Angels
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Obscure, no name?
That would be correct.
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