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Yeah diversity idk. Non-Southernness? Yes, Nashville has a lot of non-Southern qualities to it, despite its celebrity scene being dominated by country music.
Is the nightlife actually more diverse, though? I won't actually comment on that since I'm not well-versed in both. But I would imagine Atlanta is more diverse just based on the size and diversity of the city.
The nightlife in Nashville is likely more diverse because it's more centralized and has popular nightlife districts that everyone patronizes. While Atlanta isn't as centralized, back in the day everyone knew you went to Buckhead for the nightlife as it was pretty legendary at that time. Now that the Buckhead Village of yesteryear is gone, no other no other area in the city has come close in popularity and the nightlife is a bit more fractured now.
The nightlife in Nashville is likely more diverse because it's more centralized and has popular nightlife districts that everyone patronizes. While Atlanta isn't as centralized, back in the day everyone knew you went to Buckhead for the nightlife as it was pretty legendary at that time. Now that the Buckhead Village of yesteryear is gone, no other no other area in the city has come close in popularity and the nightlife is a bit more fractured now.
This is true I miss that old Atlanta nightlife scene of the late 90s and 2000s. It's diminished quite a bit since.
This is true I miss that old Atlanta nightlife scene of the late 90s and 2000s. It's diminished quite a bit since.
Unfortunately it's happening in many places now that people with means are moving back to central cities and the nightlife venues are getting bulldozed for new development. Oh well, I'm glad I was in my prime party years when I experienced it. Good luck Gen Z'ers!
Unfortunately it's happening in many places now that people with means are moving back to central cities and the nightlife venues are getting bulldozed for new development. Oh well, I'm glad I was in my prime party years when I experienced it. Good luck Gen Z'ers!
If they even have spending money with the way the economy is going, all that's going to be left are cocktail lounges and beer halls. Dive bars are dying. Nightclubs are being pushed out by suburbanites who think they like city life. The nightclubs that are left are racist, homophobic, and require strict dress codes and cater to only bottle service paying customers. This is everywhere. I wish more major US cities had nightlife czars/night mayors. Their influence needs to be stronger as well. Dive bars hold down a neighborhood. Inclusive nightclubs generate business; too many discriminate and turn away black and LGBT would-be customers. I think giving wealthy suburbanites who think they like the city life less influence would be wonderful as well. If you don't want noise and nightlife in a city because your child might wake up, then deal with it or move away. I know for a fact that annoying neighbors who gentrified SF, especially straight people in the Castro, lessened the quality of the nightlife by incessantly calling about noise complaints. I'm sure this has happened nationwide as people who want their sleepy suburban house, yet live in a nightlife district, call the cops all the time on establishments that established neighborhoods.
It's sad to hear that's happened in Atlanta as well. IMO, at least before I moved out, LA was doing a good job at maintaining its nightlife. I think with the proliferation of Uber/Lyft it actually got better because people from other neighborhoods could go to bars where they couldn't before. DTLA nightlife is amazing, or at least it was before I moved. WeHo still seems to be going strong. Hollywood still seems strong. The only one that suffered it seems is Main St SaMo, which is sad because it was one of my favorites.
FWIW, the strong nightlife only solidifies Miami being most like LA. Miami's is better, but LA's is still good. When I went out in Nashville, I did have a good time, but I didn't love it.
Well the state can't be completely blamed for Austin's subpar infrastructure as there was a strong anti-growth movement in place just as the city was getting popular. But instead of growth slowing, it accelerated and now the city is trying to play catch-up in a big way.
But my point is that the scenario of Nashville being in Texas and being bigger/more prominent than it currently is as a result is highly questionable since, for all intents and purposes, Austin is already "Nashville in Texas" and I'm not seeing how two such cities would both be able to boom and thrive at the same time. Plus it's highly unlikely that the healthcare industry in Nashville would be as big as it is if it were in Texas since it would be more likely that Houston would have occupied that niche.
True and not disputing that.
Would you say Austin is still largely anti-growth? It was kind of interesting watching the members in the Austin forums practically try to persuade potential relocators from moving there by bringing up hot long summers, traffic, even scorpions while the relo 's completely ignore these warnings and come anyway usually from places that are much more expensive or have much worse traffic. Sometimes I feel its anti-growth nature is largely what attracts people into moving here. People want what they cant have. <<< I'm kidding here as it does offer a bit more in the way of quality of life compared to rust belt cities and California. But its especially interesting watching its anti-growth when coming from a city that practically welcomed growth.
I guess what I am trying to figure out in my crystal ball is if Austin is ever going to invest in infrastructure while it continue to explode or if we're just going to end up with more greenways, and scooters with 3 lane freeways in a city of nearly 4 million people in the next 2 decades.
It has invested in more tollroads and some are still under construction that and the plan to dig I-35 into the ground so it's not completely bleak but the inner city highways cant be widened and I dont really see a way to implement better innercity transit either so if it kept growing with people commuting downtown...it would be a living nightmare.
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Would you say Austin is still largely anti-growth? It was kind of interesting watching the members in the Austin forums practically try to persuade potential relocators from moving there by bringing up hot long summers, traffic, even scorpions while the relo 's completely ignore these warnings and come anyway usually from places that are much more expensive or have much worse traffic. Sometimes I feel its anti-growth nature is largely what attracts people into moving here. People want what they cant have. <<< I'm kidding here as it does offer a bit more in the way of quality of life compared to rust belt cities and California. But its especially interesting watching its anti-growth when coming from a city that practically welcomed growth.
I guess what I am trying to figure out in my crystal ball is if Austin is ever going to invest in infrastructure while it continue to explode or if we're just going to end up with more greenways, and scooters with 3 lane freeways in a city of nearly 4 million people in the next 2 decades.
It has invested in more tollroads and some are still under construction that and the plan to dig I-35 into the ground so it's not completely bleak but the inner city highways cant be widened and I dont really see a way to implement better innercity transit either so if it kept growing with people commuting downtown...it would be a living nightmare.
I honestly don't have the slightest clue. I've done my fair share of research about the city lately but I'm just an outsider looking in.
The nightlife in Nashville is likely more diverse because it's more centralized and has popular nightlife districts that everyone patronizes. While Atlanta isn't as centralized, back in the day everyone knew you went to Buckhead for the nightlife as it was pretty legendary at that time. Now that the Buckhead Village of yesteryear is gone, no other no other area in the city has come close in popularity and the nightlife is a bit more fractured now.
Maybe Atlanta or Raleigh if they were significantly bigger. Maybeee DC if DC’s core wasn’t so large relative to the size of its MSA (it is pretty multinodal)
I assume we are talking about MSA’s. But it would be almost insulting to compare some suburbs of the listed cities to Santa Monica, Hollywood, etc. not to mention the geography and beaches, etc.
Edit: omg. The hyperbole and romper room from theNashville posters never cease to amaze me. (Post 628). Atlanta, even in its hey day, can’t touch Nashville’s nightlife, Austin is very anti-growth and Nashville is LA East because of all the celebrities you see just kiking in the street? Lawd have mercy. This is worse than unpaid coffee-boy interns who work for some random senate office in DC and think they’re just all that.
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