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Personally, I'll take my day trips to NYC or DC over one to Palo Alto, TBH. May be an east coast v a west coast thing - dunno?
So NYC and DC are "suburban/exurban" areas now? Reading comprehension, how does it work?
Apologies for being snarky, I'm sure you're rather articulate otherwise.
To be fair though, the ability to day trip to NYC and DC is definitely a WC vs EC thing, for obvious reasons (the most obvious of those reasons being that those cities are on the east coast )
So NYC and DC are "suburban/exurban" areas now? Reading comprehension, how does it work?
Apologies for being snarky, I'm sure you're rather articulate otherwise.
To be fair though, the ability to day trip to NYC and DC is definitely a WC vs EC thing, for obvious reasons (the most obvious of those reasons being that those cities are on the east coast )
Exactly.
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Personally, I'll take my day trips to NYC or DC over one to Palo Alto, TBH. May be an east coast v a west coast thing - dunno?
I would hardly call NYC or DC "day" trips. Weekend trips sure. But then just as quickly and for similar cost someone from the Bay Area can hop down to LA (albeit by flight rather than train). I've actually gone from NYC to Philly and vice versa. Drinking was involved in each occasion and so was either a hotel room or a friend's couch. Not so much a "day" trip.
I think you're missing the point. Day trips for the Bay Area? Hard to beat - the examples listed which you selectively edited out were such things as Napa/Sonoma, Carmel/Big Sur, etc etc. Weekend trips allow for even wider range - Tahoe, Yosemite, LA/San Diego as mentioned, Palm Springs, Santa Barbara, perhaps Vegas if that floats your boat or CO Rockies, etc etc.
The comparison to Palo Alto was to other suburbs in Philly. There is no comparison. There is enough reason for SF residents to make a day trip out of Palo Alto. It's not like people in Philly are going to NYC or DC *every* single weekend, and it's likely residents there are like residents anywhere else and are looking for quick/cheap/easy escapes out of the city center, as well (that would not include NYC or DC, as those are expensive trips filled with potential hassles). What is one to do in Ardmore, Wayne, or Haddonfield? Some of the Bay Area suburbs have quite a bit to do, relative to counterparts in other cities.
So NYC and DC are "suburban/exurban" areas now? Reading comprehension, how does it work?
Apologies for being snarky, I'm sure you're rather articulate otherwise.
To be fair though, the ability to day trip to NYC and DC is definitely a WC vs EC thing, for obvious reasons (the most obvious of those reasons being that those cities are on the east coast )
Instead of apologizing for being snarky, why not just resist the temptation?
When it comes to day trips, I don't exist in an abstract world that limits me to suburban/exurban options. If some posters want to limit their sights in that manner for the sake of a meaningless pi$$ing match, they should of course feel free. My posts reflect how I actually live out here in the real world.
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Reason: Grammar correction . . . again (sigh)
When it comes to day trips, I don't exist in an abstract world that limits me to suburban/exurban options. If some posters want to limit their sights in that manner for the sake of a meaningless pi$$ing match, they should of course feel free. My posts reflect how I actually live out here in the real world.
Well that just sets up every thread to go like this:
Poll question: Which city best meets this critera?
Option A = Denver
Option B = Minneapolis
Answer = Paris
Granted, that is basically how every thread eventually goes anyway lololol but I mean why ever limit yourself to the actual discussion at hand? We live in the real world after all where options are near limitless. I actually find bringing up something that is not part of the current discussion (as ridiculous as it may be) to be somewhat more abstract.
I would hardly call NYC or DC "day" trips. Weekend trips sure. But then just as quickly and for similar cost someone from the Bay Area can hop down to LA (albeit by flight rather than train). I've actually gone from NYC to Philly and vice versa. Drinking was involved in each occasion and so was either a hotel room or a friend's couch. Not so much a "day" trip.
You sound young - dunno? My trips no longer involve excessive drinking and/or crashing on couches.
I've made day trips to NYC to see a matinee. In fact, I have two friends who routinely do this almost every Wednesday via NJ transit. Talking about the ultimate "day trip" - my neighbor commuted to Manhattan for over 25 years before retiring back in January. A lot more is possible when one stays sober.
Well that just sets up every thread to go like this:
Poll question: Which city best meets this critera?
Option A = Denver
Option B = Minneapolis
Answer = Paris
Granted, that is basically how every thread eventually goes anyway lololol but I mean why ever limit yourself to the actual discussion at hand? We live in the real world after all where options are near limitless. I actually find bringing up something that is not part of the current discussion (as ridiculous as it may be) to be somewhat more abstract.
You sound young - dunno? My trips no longer involve excessive drinking and/or crashing on couches.
I've made day trips to NYC to see a matinee. In fact, I have two friends who routinely do this almost every Wednesday via NJ transit.
Young as in not married/tied down with kids? Yes. Excessive drinking? Occasionally, I'm only human. But even so, if I were simply going into the city for a show or dinner, drinks will be involved (not in excess), and I can assure you there wouldn't be any steps that involve dragging my azz to Penn Station and then returning all the way home to some point in Greater Philadelphia.
Likewise, if I loved to visit museums, and I do, even with reciprocal, it's not necessarily worth it to me to hop down for the day to visit the PMA. You're essentially paying $100-200 (or spending a long time in a train if it's not Acela) to visit a museum only, and one that is not quite on par with what you have in your city across multiple options. Partying, sight seeing, a trip to Reading Market or the Italian area in South Philly, or a trek out to western burbs to visit family would have to be a part of the trip to make it worth it, and then you're well beyond "day trip" from NYC to Philly. Definitely more of a sparing weekend trip.
(funny how we're essentially killing any points Philly may have for keeping its people busy/entertained by talking about weekly treks to Manhattan, or daily commutes for a job...)
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Talking about the ultimate "day trip" - my neighbor commuted to Manhattan for over 25 years before retiring back in January. A lot more is possible when one stays sober.
I'm sure that's very typical
And if it is, well then, I feel sorry for Philadelphia (from a jobs and a culture/entertainment perspective). It truly isn't on a Boston, SF, or Chicago's level then, as each of these cities are the "New York" of their respective areas. I.e., like people in Philly trek up to NYC for shopping/theater/culture, people in New England trek to Boston, people in much of the Midwest trek to Chicago, and people in NorCal trek to San Francisco.
Once again - win (NYC, Chicago, SF, Boston, LA); loss (Philly)
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