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It has been a deadly start to September in Chicago, with at least 13 people fatally shot over 36 hours across the city this week. Eight of those were slain Wednesday, the most homicides in one day since July 5, 2003.
From 2000-2014, Milwaukee averaged 100 killings a year. After 8 months, Milwaukee has already experienced 104 killings. From 2000-2014, St. Louis averaged 129 killings a year. After 8 months, St. Louis has seen 136 killings and on pace for over 200 killings. The last time St. Louis had over 200 killings was 1995's total of 204. Other cities have seen a rise in killings this year compared to the same time last year, but unlike Milwaukee and St. Louis, those cities are on pace for lower year in totals compared to their average annual totals from 2000-2014.
I think several cities are on track to see higher murder rates than their 2000-2014 average. In addition to Milwaukee and STL, at least 9 of the top 10 listed in Chicago60614's post are on a track to have higher murder rates than average: Baltimore, Gary, New Orleans, Detroit, Newark, Jackson, Oakland, Birmingham, Hartford. I say 9 out of 10 because Camden might not this year but Camden has always been a roller coaster. They have 22 murders this year so far, they had 25 total in 2001 and in 2012 they had 67. New Orleans will not be higher than average, but relatively unchanged.
Shootings have been rising for 2 or 3 years in quite a few cities. Heroin deaths have multiplied during the same period. Even in some cities with murder rates that declined, shootings still managed to increase (like New Orleans last year with a 23% increase in nonfatal shootings). If they kept increasing, the murder rate would eventually rise.
Last edited by joeyg2014; 09-04-2015 at 12:36 PM..
It is strange, this across the board rise in murders. Some places aren't seeing it, such as Detroit which is basically at a low point for murders this year, down 25% over the past 3 years.
These are all from the past week or so:
New York City: 208 or 2.5/100,000
Boston: 19 or 2.9/100,000
Los Angeles: 189 or 4.9/100,000
San Francisco: 41 or 4.9/100,000
Nashville: 42 or 6.4/100,000
Columbus: 62 or 7.5/100,000
Oklahoma City: 54 or 8.9/100,000
Tulsa: 42 or 10.5/100,000
Indianaplolis: 95 or 10.8/100,000
Philadelphia: 175 or 11.3/100,000
Chicago: 316 or 11.7/100,000
Kansas City: 56 or 12.0/100,000
Memphis: 99 or 15.1/100,000
Washington DC: 105 or 16.0/100,000
Cincinnati: 51 or 17.1/100,000
Milwaukee: 104 or 17.3/100,000
Hardford: 24 or 19.2/100,000
Birmingham: 42 or 19.8/100,000
Oakland: 89 or 21.9/100,000
Jackson, MS: 39 or 22.5/100,000
Newark: 63 or 22.6/100,000
Camden: 22 or 27.5/100,000
Detroit: 194 or 28.1/100,000
New Orleans: 120 or 31.7/100,000
Baltimore: 225 or 36.2/100,000
St Louis: 136 or 42.8/100,000
Gary: 39 or 50.0/100,000
Crazy that Philly is seen as so ghetto out on the East Coast yet it's still better than almost any city in the midwest
Crazy that Philly is seen as so ghetto out on the East Coast yet it's still better than almost any city in the midwest
Philly has improved since 2012 and the thing with cities like Philly and Chicago is that they have areas as bad as Detroit but as large world cities they have more wealth to dilute the stats. North Philly is one of the most dilapidated urban neighborhoods in the US.
Last edited by joeyg2014; 09-04-2015 at 04:12 PM..
Crazy that Philly is seen as so ghetto out on the East Coast yet it's still better than almost any city in the midwest
Then you have cities like DC, which not only is it currently more dangerous than Philly, but has always been more dangerous than Philly. However, DC somehow always gets a pass on City Data for its crime issues.
Then you have cities like DC, which not only is it currently more dangerous than Philly, but has always been more dangerous than Philly. However, DC somehow always gets a pass on City Data for its crime issues.
Because of the white collar, service based economy. D.C. has a lot of wealth and prestige, something Philly completely lacks. That's why people seem to excuse D.C. these days.
Because of the white collar, service based economy. D.C. has a lot of wealth and prestige, something Philly completely lacks. That's why people seem to excuse D.C. these days.
lol "service based" economy? Really? honestly who do you think we all work for? We all work in the dusty shoe factories in north philly?
This is DC's excuse.. Oh we don't go to that part of the city!
Well Ant131521 says everyone in Philly is scum even though a portionatilly smaller portion of Philly is a ghetto compared to Washington DC. All I see is new skyscrapers popping up left and right. Along with thousands of new row houses popping up in walkable neighborhoods with a real history to them. I love living in Philly and can't wait to see what the future holds for one of the most interesting and exciting cities in our country. If you ever have had a bad time here, you probably didn't know what you were doing.
Obviously something needs to be done about the crime in a lot of places. I feel like we lack truly inspirational leaders today.
Last edited by thedirtypirate; 09-05-2015 at 09:35 PM..
Atlanta has had a quiet August with only 1 murder for the month, putting the YTD count at 58. The same time last year was at 52, which makes it a 12% increase. Any increase is still bad, but not bad compared to the cities that have been discussed.
Because of the white collar, service based economy. D.C. has a lot of wealth and prestige, something Philly completely lacks. That's why people seem to excuse D.C. these days.
Haha. Don't forget Philly also has a lower crime rate than Atlanta as well.
Philadelphia lacks a White Collar economy? Philadelphia has a more white collar economy than Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City and is nearly to the same level of San Francisco and Boston.
"White Collar" job percentages per metro
Washington DC - 50.69%
San Jose - 48.49%
Boston - 45.45%
San Francisco - 45.06%
Philadelphia - 40.29%
New York City - 39.45%
Atlanta - 38.52%
Chicago - 36.92%
Los Angeles - 35.75%
Philadelphia lacks wealth? LOL. Another statement clearly showing you know absolutely nothing about the Philadelphia area. Have you ever heard of the Main Line? Center City? Rittenhouse Square, Logan Square, Fitler Square, Society Hill?
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