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View Poll Results: Which teir does Los Angles fall closer to?
It's closer to NYC 25 40.98%
It's closer to Chicago 36 59.02%
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-02-2015, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Manhattan alone is nowhere near the most powerful city.
How is Manhattan nowhere near the most powerful city when Manhattan has more Fortune 500 companies of any whole city? Home of Wall Street, which makes it the financial capital of the world? Hedge fund capital? More billionaires than any whole city on earth? More million dollar earners than any whole city on earth? Has 17 of the top 20 http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-...s-america.html? The highest market cap per top corporations/assets under management of any whole city in the world? The headquarters of the United Nations? The media capital? The world's favorite city? The largest recipient of foreign commercial and residential investment in the world? Even the President wants to move to New York City post-presidency, like his dem. predecessor. They're leaders of the free world, so of course it's natural they're drawn to the leading city of the free world - NYC.

LOL. You seem so jelly when it comes to NYC, it's quite comical. I mean, 90% of your posts have to do with NYC or dismissing NYC. For someone who pretends to dislike it...it sure occupies a lot of space in whatever that matter is between your ears. Detecting an inferiority complex there .

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Old 06-02-2015, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Seattle aka tier 3 city :)
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No, not mmkay.

I agree that NYC is twice as big and important as LA but there is no conceivable way that LA is twice as important as Chicago. I would allow that LA *may* be a little more important as a global city, but in no way is it twice as important as Chicago. After NY, they are 1A and 1B. Check the GAWC and the many different global studies.
If looking at hard facts alone, LA is nearly twice the size of Chicago by CSA, 1.5X the size in GDP, and known the world over unlike Chicago, go ahead and throw whatever outlook, forbes, stats you want to throw, but those are facts you cannot dispute to be clear though I don't agree with that posters' assessment that LA is twice as important as Chicago nor that NYC is twice as big and Important as LA.

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Top 8 PCSA's, 2013.

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Old 06-02-2015, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Aurora, Colorado
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Bottom line:

Los Angeles is neither closer to New York or Chicago. It is simply just in the middle of the two in terms of size, status and importance.

New York basically is double the size of Los Angeles. It is also twice as important and holds twice the status. Los Angeles is twice the size of Chicago and has twice the importance and twice the status.

Mmkay?

Lol. NYC is not twice as important as LA. And LA is not twice as important as LA
 
Old 06-02-2015, 07:35 AM
 
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UAE, Ive stated that Manhattan is a powerful entity enough times before & tip my hat to that Great island of New York, Ive said without Manhattan annexation of the other boroughs that Manhattan wouldn't have the same economic power.

Im still waiting for you to post how many millionares Dallas has smart guy & for some strange reason i don't understand why you come to New York rescue in every post lol
 
Old 06-02-2015, 07:39 AM
 
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And The only comical part is when i proved Los Angeles County had the most millionares in the nation,Worlds most powerful brand & California more billionaires of any state & place on the planet except China & Californias home country the United States of course lol . Than you said oh well per capita is different lmao.Someone is jealous of the Gold Coast.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 01:02 PM
 
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UAE, Ive stated that Manhattan is a powerful entity enough times before & tip my hat to that Great island of New York, Ive said without Manhattan annexation of the other boroughs that Manhattan wouldn't have the same economic power.
First, the annexation of land by NY is no different than the annexation of land by every other city in the US including LA. Despite the annexation, NYC still takes up less land area than LA. It's not as if NYC annexed some absurd amount of land. Additionally, it wouldn't even matter because based off MSA statistics, NY annihilates LA the same.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 01:39 PM
 
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And The only comical part is when i proved Los Angeles County had the most millionares in the nation
You've already been told the NY MSA consists of about 25 small counties. LA MSA consists of 2 huge counties. NYC alone has a lot more millionaires than all of LA County. Do you need it drilled into you?

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Worlds most powerful brand
You've been proven wrong.

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California more billionaires of any state & place on the planet except China
Because it's the most populous state and within it are 3 major cities. You want to talk about LA metro and then when you lose, you want to bring LA County only into the discussion and compare it to small counties on the east coast, then you want to bring the entire state of California against individual states knowing states in the east are small and metro NY lies in 4 different states. It's stupid and makes no sense. California is too big and states here are too small and interconnected to compare to states in the west. The whole entire state of California barely has more billionaires than the NY area. No other city in the world has more billionaires.

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Than you said oh well per capita is different lmao.Someone is jealous of the Gold Coast.
Per capita is a true measurement. NYC isn't more dangerous than New Orleans just because NYC has more homicides.

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Old 06-02-2015, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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And The only comical part is when i proved Los Angeles County had the most millionares in the nation
No you did not.

Manhattan has more rich folks than the entire Los Angeles metropolitan area, as I pointed out several times. I'll keep pasting the below it if you need a reminder.

Taxpayers who earn $1 million and up
Manhattan: 18,952
Los Angeles Metro 13,891

http://www.city-data.com/forum/39825878-post117.html

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Worlds most powerful brand
New York is the Most Powerful City in the World | City Lab

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California more billionaires of any state
You're now grasping for straws and it's rather sad. You've lost the city versus city argument, so you've now moved onto comparing a city to a state and it's quite sad and desperate. Yes, the State of California with 40mm and several important cities does have a few more billionaires than the lonely City of New York lol. But New York City performs rather well for being 50% smaller, doesn't it? Especially when nearly all of this wealth comes from a single city. And you wonder why it is always crowned the most powerful city.

Billionaires
California: 104
New York metro: 101
http://blogs-images.forbes.com/danal...3970035433.jpg

But what significance does this have on the conversation? New York City vs Los Angeles, not New York City vs California. As much as you try to mask the relative poverty of Los Angeles behind behind Silicon Valley's shield of influence and wealth, nothing will hang the fact that New York City itself has far more wealth than the entire Southern California. Apples to Apples, buttercups

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Than you said oh well per capita is different
I never mentioned per capita. Manhattan, with its tiny population, has more rich people than the entire Los Angeles metro area in sheer numbers. And of course, per capita wise, it's a complete catastrophic blowout. But again, I never mentioned it but if you want to go there....lol.

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Someone is jealous of the Gold Coast.
Why would I be 'jealous' of a state I was born in? In my personal opinion, California is the greatest state in the nation, but this is a city argument, not a state vs city argument. New York City is the greatest and most powerful city in the world. I just a fierce believer in facts, and I'll spend as much time as it takes to correct your apparent ignorance. I'm patient.

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Old 06-02-2015, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Lol. NYC is not twice as important as LA. And LA is not twice as important as LA
Agreed. Except replace the second LA with CHI (I know it was just an typo on your part).
 
Old 06-02-2015, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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I love it when someone says "our cities are the exact same level" and then proceeds to cite "because GaWC said so."

Never gets old.

It has been explained on more than one occasion that the Alpha-Beta-Gamma crap is misunderstood and taken widely out of context. People just don't want to learn.
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