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Look, if the point of this entire thread is to say that there is no peer for Norfolk in the South, then why not just cut to the chase and say it? We could then debate that premise.
The question was posed by the OP to identify peer cities and I think that people have weighed in with varying levels of thoughtfulness to the original request. To be clear, no two cities are 100% alike and each city has something to offer. That said, there are very few cities if any that are so totally unique that any similarities in built environment, geographic location, local culture, employment base, size, weather, strength of economy, infrastructure, etc. can't be found. In the case of Norfolk, there are other coastal cities in the South that are "up-river" from the Atlantic Ocean. There are other cities of a similar size. There are other cities that were established during the same period and with similar planning principals. There are other military towns. There are ones with similar climate. There are others with similar infrastructure. All of these features, data points, etc. can be used to discuss whether or not a city is a peer.
Yeah, but nothing about Dallas's specific location made that inevitable, no harbor, and the trinity river isn't much of a river, in fact, the river flooded all the time until they built the levies. Norfolk is tied down to a very specific place.
Dallas's geographic advantage is mostly due to proximity to other urban centers and the infrastructure connecting it to those places (the railroad) as opposed to fixed geographical features. So it's different in that regard, but it was still more or less destined to be a major commercial center on that basis.
Dallas's geographic advantage is mostly due to proximity to other urban centers and the infrastructure connecting it to those places (the railroad) as opposed to fixed geographical features. So it's different in that regard, but it was still more or less destined to be a major commercial center on that basis.
Does Dallas have an actual railroad or is its a setup of Union Pacific and Kansas City Southern railroad trackage rights?
I did notice the higher GDP. It isn't really that big of a surprise seeing what has happened to NOLA and the general decline that Memphis had gone through. The Navy is a pretty big spender too.
About 30 percent of the economy centers around shipbuilding and the defense industry however it would be foolish to discount the economic impact of the railroad and commercial water shipping infrastructure in the area.
About 30 percent of the economy centers around shipbuilding and the defense industry however it would be foolish to discount the economic impact of the railroad and commercial water shipping infrastructure in the area.
30 Percent is a large amount. Looking at the numbers the port is on of the biggest in the US. I know a lot of you will hate this comparison, but that is something else Norfolk has in common with Corpus, their port is only a little smaller.
NOLA also has basically two large ports as well, but doesn't have the Navy presence.
Dallas's geographic advantage is mostly due to proximity to other urban centers and the infrastructure connecting it to those places (the railroad) as opposed to fixed geographical features. So it's different in that regard, but it was still more or less destined to be a major commercial center on that basis.
DFW isn't very close to any other urban centers. It is a four hour drive to any major city. You could literally move the railroads and highways 100 miles in any direction and that is where the city would be.
DFW isn't very close to any other urban centers. It is a four hour drive to any major city.
Dallas is just over three hours in drive time to Austin and Oklakoma City. Dallas is just under 40 mins to downtown Ft. Worth. Dallas is 3 hours and 30 mins to Houston. Dallas is 4 hours and 40 mins to San Antonio.
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You could literally move the railroads and highways 100 miles in any direction and that is where the city would be.
Dallas offers world class air, rail, and automotive transportation nfrastructure.
DFW isn't very close to any other urban centers. It is a four hour drive to any major city. You could literally move the railroads and highways 100 miles in any direction and that is where the city would be.
I was speaking in relative terms in connection with its status as a rail hub. It's roughly midway between the east and west coasts.
30 Percent is a large amount. Looking at the numbers the port is on of the biggest in the US. I know a lot of you will hate this comparison, but that is something else Norfolk has in common with Corpus, their port is only a little smaller.
NOLA also has basically two large ports as well, but doesn't have the Navy presence.
How is that different than a city that has an economy heavily depended on tourism, banking, or the tech or automotive industry? There are quite a few cities in similar positions.
I don't hate the Corpus comparison however does their port support but military and civilian shipping enterprises even remotely close to the level of Norfolk?
How is that different than a city that has an economy heavily depended on tourism, banking, or the tech or automotive industry? There are quite a few cities in similar positions.
I don't hate the Corpus comparison however does their port support but military and civilian shipping enterprises even remotely close to the level of Norfolk?
I've seen different numbers from different years, but yes, it is one of the largest ports in the US.
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